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Hey, Nora.

I’m Nora McInerny, and this is Thanks For Asking, a call-in show about what matters to you. Hi, everybody, it’s Nora McInerny, and this is Thanks For Asking, and It’s Going To Be Okay. For a few years there, we made this little daily show.

I say little, but honestly, it was ranking very high, top percentage of podcasts worldwide. A number that, like so many other numbers in the world, really does not mean much.

But the point is we made this little daily show called It’s Going To Be Okay. It was like five to eight minutes, a little bit of okay for your day. We shared something, something small that made other people feel like it was going to be okay.

Was everything going to be okay? No, we aren’t stupid. We don’t look around at the world that we all inhabit, that we are all aware of its many flaws and say, you know what, guys, everything’s going to be okay.

Don’t sweat it. We say, look, let’s acknowledge that we’re all sweating very much right now. We’re all very, very worried.

And before we fall into the pit of despair, let us take our little finger, that little weak fingernail there, hook on to one small bit of hope, one okay thing, and let’s just try to hang on. Let’s just hang in there a little bit.

Now, the origin of this show, if you already know, this is boring to you. But if you’re new, it might also be boring to you. Either way, I’m the one talking, so you could fast-forward, or I don’t know why I’m bringing this attitude to this show.

I really don’t. But the origin of the show, that phrase, it’s going to be okay. You’ve heard it before.

We’ve all heard it before. It’s something that people just say. But it’s special to me because it is something that my husband Aaron said to me while he was dying.

Also something that he said to me when he wasn’t dying, when he was young, when he was healthy, when we did not know that inside of his head, he was also growing a brain tumor that would ultimately kill him. He was breezy. He was buoyant.

I’m not. I am naturally depressed. I am the brick that was tied to his emotional balloon and he somehow kept me afloat.

And when he was dying, he looked me in the eye and he said, it’s going to be okay. And I thought to myself, you have a brain tumor, you’re on morphine, you can’t be trusted. It’s not actually not gonna be okay at all.

Thank you for sharing that though. Anything else you would like to share with me? He shared many things.

Many of them were very personal, but I will tell you right now that he did ask me to stop picking my nose and I have tried. But I love it. I love it.

I hate the feeling of boogers in my nose. I don’t know how people walk around with just like stuff in their nose. I gotta get it out.

We’re not talking about picking boogers, except we always are talking about picking boogers. If you’re with me. So, It’s Going To Be Okay was a show for a while.

We stepped away. We just did not have the capacity to do it. And then I looked at the world and I said like, do we have the capacity to not do it?

Do we have the capacity to not find something okay in our days right now? So I put out the call. I said, folks, do you want to bring back It’s Going To Be Okay?

Different format. It’s got to be a little bit longer. It’s not going to be daily.

It’s going to be like everything I do, wildly unpredictable. And at least five of you said yes. So here we are.

And we’re releasing this episode right now, because what are we entering right now? We are entering the holiday season. We are specifically entering the Thanksgiving season, followed by more holiday season to come.

And I am in all of those seasons, but I am also in my grief season. I am. This is the time of year, 11 years ago, where just everything happened.

Just everything happened. And again, if you know this, maybe you’re bored by it, but like, lost a pregnancy, my dad died, my husband died. Like, I won the Bummer Olympics in 2014.

And it wasn’t even a contest, because that contest doesn’t exist. Life is hard for everybody. But at the time, I really thought it was just hard for me, and I was the center of the universe.

So this time of year is hard for everybody. And it might be hard for you for completely different reasons, but we are here to remind each other, to remind ourselves that even when it feels like everything is hopeless, that’s not true.

There is something okay in your day. Aaron never said everything was going to be okay. He did not even specify what it was.

It can be anything. And sometimes it is so small, sometimes it is so silly, but it doesn’t matter.

It doesn’t matter because whatever it is, we’re looking at it, we’re noticing it, we’re sharing it with the class, and we are going to let it carry us as far as it can take us. So, so let’s go.

Hi, it’s gone to the OK team.

I lived through the Eaton fire in Alta Dena in January this year. I’m incredibly lucky that my house did not burn, but it got very close and it was a terrifying experience. Three weeks later, my mom died very unexpectedly at age 61.

I’ve had a bad year. But I did also discover a new love this year and that is pinball. My husband suggested I join a local women’s league and I went for it.

I’m still not very good, but it has been such a pleasure to discover a new side of myself and find something that brings me such joy. It is also great for getting out aggression, which I have a lot of now.

I’m grateful to know that there are still parts of me that I haven’t discovered yet and I can find some joy amongst all the pain. I hope that this story encourages other people to continue to discover themselves no matter what they are going through.

Thank you.

Pinball team. Didn’t even know that was a thing. I played pinball a little bit.

I did not know that it was, I knew it was a game of skill because I’m not good at it. That’s how I know that something takes skill. If I’m not good at it, I say someone else must be and they must have some quality that I don’t have.

Did not know there were teams, did not know that, I’ll be honest, I didn’t think pinball was a skill. I didn’t. I thought pinball was luck and none of those points mean anything.

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Hi, Nora.

My name is Kate, and I work at Arizona State University. I wanted to tell you what makes me feel okay in this world.

It would absolutely be the students that I serve through my work with the TRIO grant, where we serve students who are first-generation in a family to go to college, low-income, and or have a documented disability, and we are their human Google that

like assist them with anything they need to graduate. One of those students who I happen to walk to campus with once in a while is an 81-year-old lady named Brenda. Brenda is pursuing her degree in linguistics.

She’s had about nine lives, Air Force veteran, worldwide traveler, wear of amazing hats. She was an interior decorator. She’s done it all.

And she walks with her walker about two miles, back and forth to the Tempe campus all year, including the summer. Definitely tell her to take the bus because it’s too hot, but she’s amazing.

Brenda and all my other students give me such joy throughout every day. So thank you for having this post and this prompt, and have a wonderful rest of your day. Bye.

I love Brenda.

Brenda now just made my day. We’ve put out a few episodes of Thanks For Asking about reminding ourselves that we’re not too old, it’s not too late, you will have nine lives, possibly more.

I actually, this is jogging a memory of an okay thing from this morning, truly a day maker from this morning. I was running late.

I like to go to the fancy grocery store, AJ’s Fine Foods here in Phoenix, Arizona, to get myself an Arnold Palmer to start my day, half lemonade, half iced tea. People never know what I’m talking about when I say Arnie Palmer.

If you’re watching this video on YouTube, please know that I know that this dress is falling down, and I know that my push-up bra is out.

If you’re listening to this, just know that I am wearing the Skims push-up bra, and it is out, because this dress does, this dress is not meant for sitting. This dress is meant for standing. This dress is not a working dress.

But I’m at AJ’s Fine Foods. They’ve got a number system. It’s number 57 when I walk in.

I pull a number, I’m 62. They are a machine, but it moves pretty fast, and you never know, like they’ll say 60, 61, 62. You gotta raise your hand, you gotta be heard.

I say, oh yeah, I’m 62. Turns out 61 was this old woman who was like off to the side of the register. She just didn’t get noticed.

I said, oh, I budged you. I had already placed my order for my Arnie Palmer. I said, please let me get your stuff.

She said, you don’t have to do that. I’m not like some poor old woman. I said, I know you’re not a poor old woman, but like, you know, I budged you.

It was rude. I have to use a credit card for a $1 refill. Please give me the dignity of not putting a dollar on a credit card.

So got her a latte, paid for a little breakfast. We got to talking. Oh, she’s 95.

I said, you don’t look a day over 80. 95, Irma? Right away, she tells me she grew up in Phoenix.

She’s had nine lives. She used to be an interior decorator in Santa Monica, California. That was a while ago.

But her first career, she was 11 years as a teacher. She was married to some guy. She didn’t want to say anything bad about him.

I said, please do. She wouldn’t. And then she moved out to California and started her life over.

And now she’s back here. We got to talking. I said, do you want to sit and have breakfast?

She said, no, I have plenty of people to sit with. And I said, got it. But yeah, that’s my Brenda.

My Brenda is Irma. And I love women, always. I love women who are still living their lives, who are living their ninth life, their tenth life, women who are still out there doing what they want to do.

Hey, Nora and team.

This is Pam from Minneapolis, responding to Grace’s post about what’s making us feel okay right now.

And I would say women singer and songwriters, Brandi Carlile, Amanda Shires, and actually Taylor Swift’s new one is making me feel okay. Especially Taylor’s Opalite. That is a joy-filled, perfect song to me.

It instantly puts me in a better mood. So thanks for putting all the good things out in the world, Nora and team, and talk to you later.

Love that. I love all of, you know, I’ve listed a little bit to the new Amanda Shires, but I have not. Okay, I’m going to read some texts too to keep it fresh.

Okay.

My daughter recently brought home a scholastic book fair catalog from preschool.

The amount of comfort and nostalgia that brought me in this stupid era of AI calmed my nervous system like nothing has in a long time. We had a tough year.

My husband and I both lost our previous jobs due to the new administration policies, aka we got dozed. I worked in the federal government for over a decade, and he was a government contractor.

We are all good now, and we have new jobs and happy to be out of that stress.

Anyway, scholastic book fairs were a highlight of my school year growing up, and it makes me so happy to know that the tradition lives on and is imparted to our little ones now. Who doesn’t love to skip class and go look at fun books as a kid?

I feel the same way when I get the scholastic book fair catalog at our house, and there’s something about the paper that it’s printed on. It’s like the thinnest newsprint. It has a specific smell to it.

If they ever change that, I don’t know if I’ll recover mentally, but instant nostalgia and it’s also very hard for me to say no to consumerism when the thing that my child wants is a book.

Hi, Nora, I’m calling because one thing that has been making me feel really okay in a not really okay world lately has been my job and my coworkers. We range in age from 25 to 52. We’re all different races and genders and backgrounds.

And we mix together so well and work together so well and respect each other and have a phenomenal manager and team lead. And if anyone’s struggling at work or outside of work, we make sure that we help them and we help each other.

And I’ve been at the company almost 10 years and I never want to leave. And I’m just really, really happy that I get to go to a place every day where people at that place make it so joyous when the outside world and even sometimes work is not joyous.

They make me feel okay and they remind me that their coworkers, they don’t have to care about each other or me. They don’t have to and they do. And they do more than just their job.

They care about marriages and births and graduations and milestones and helping each other out. And I’m so proud of them as a manager on the team.

And yeah, I think they’re just the greatest example in our big company of putting this crazy group of people together and they all get along. So going to work Monday through Friday is making me feel really okay.

And they make me feel okay as this wonderful community of people.

Thank you.

I love knowing that people have jobs that they love with people that they love.

We spend so much time at work that it’s really, it’s, I don’t know, it’s really lovely to hear people say like that’s their okay thing, is the people that they work with, even if it’s not always the work itself.

A small thing that makes me feel okay right now is two 14-year-old eighth-grade girls begging to be in the counseling office, I’m a middle school counselor, for lunch, just to be together in matching outfits, playing the silliest games, eating

snacks, saying, Miss, I need to talk to you so bad about trauma, about family, about weight and body issues and everything in between. I love that these kids feel so safe that they want to go to the school counselor’s office, I’m sorry, but in the

90s, there was no greater punishment than being sent to the counselor’s office. I just cannot imagine being that.

So I hope you know that now you are somebody’s okay thing, like you were those girls’ okay thing, and now you are my okay thing, because now I am reminded that out in this big scary world, there is somebody that 14-year-old girls feel safe around,

and feel excited to be around. So thank you for sharing that. My dad still has no clue who I am. The people I serve as director of a program for unhoused women and children are still suffering.

My mental health is still teetering, and now, less than a month ago, my mother-in-law died. I’m marinating in grief and being not okay, but I’m stumbling through every day with just enough to be okay. Does that make sense?

Does that make sense is the tagline of every woman you know, who just said the most beautiful, deep and perfectly cogent thing? Does that make sense? Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense, babe. I walk around wanting people to know that I’m caring so much, wanting to be seen as a person with so many layers of experience, many of them grief-filled. Then I remember, isn’t that all of us?

That reminder helps me handle the world with gloves, lace and empathy, patience and care. So I’ll probably never be okay, but I will always be okay. How wild is that shit?

Thanks for listening. Thank you for sharing that. That’s absolutely, absolutely right.

That’s all of us. On an episode of It’s Going To Be Okay, Ralph shared his inspirational chant of, You’re good, you’re safe, you’re doing great. You’re good, you’re safe, you’re doing great.

This saying has become deeply rooted in my family and in my professional practice as a special education teacher.

There have been countless times the young people in my life have been calmed and encouraged and supported during challenging moments with those words. There have been countless times they have helped me too.

It’s one of my favorite things to think about when things seem particularly shitty. You never know when the right words or gesture can so significantly impact people you have never even met.

I cannot wait to tell that to Ralph today because that was so long ago. He was like a little kid. He was in maybe like fourth grade and he said that.

He like coined this phrase. I have the sticker on my mirror. I say that to myself every day.

I hope he still says that to himself every day and I love knowing that that still hits with people. Thank you.

Hi, Nora and Grace.

This is Carrie in Phoenix, Arizona. I’m calling to tell you something that has made me feel okay recently. I planted a butterfly garden in my front yard and I wasn’t sure it would work.

But it has worked marvelously. And this means that as I’m calling you, I’m watching dozens of butterflies split and flutter on the blossoms. And I stop and look out the window or go outside multiple times a day just to take a second and look at them.

And they flutter around me. And it really is a beautiful thing. So just wanted to share that with you all.

I hope that you have a great day. Thanks.

Bye-bye. Matt, thank you for making a butterfly garden in Phoenix, Arizona. We are not going to despair over the monarch population.

We’re going to plant butterfly gardens. I actually wrote to the City of Phoenix, had this program where they would send you a pollinator seed kit. I got it next year, baby.

Actually this winter, we are planting pollinators. We are planting more native plants. We are going to cool down our city.

We are pulling up all the gravel. Gravel, not good. Gravel, the scourge, the scourge of landscaping.

Who did gravel? Who told us that we just got to throw rocks on stuff, okay? If there’s any landscapers who are like, oh, actually, gravel is time and place.

I believe you. I believe you. I just don’t think it’s Phoenix, Arizona, which is boiling and like hot rocks.

Let’s throw some hot rocks on the ground, okay? No, let’s get some plants in there, baby. So thank you for that.

I went to a Lucy Dacus concert in September at this beautiful theater in my city.

She married eight couples on stage to her song Best Guess, most of them queer. That’s such a beautiful song, Best Guess. Lucy Dacus in general, beautiful.

It felt like this beautiful cozy sanctuary of love and safety. We all cried. Hi Nora, I feel like things are going to be okay because of something my kid said.

They just turned nine on the third. It was their first time that they were at school for their birthday. Nothing better.

I never got to experience that. I was born three days after Christmas, but the celebrity status you get at school, there’s three things, having a cast or some other temporary impairment. A cast crutches.

Oh my gosh, popularity through the roof. People are so curious. Two, leaving school for a doctor or dental appointment and coming back with McDonald’s.

Celebrity status. Third, birthday at school. Amazing.

Great. Love this weird kid. So, of course, we paid the fee to have their name up on the light up sign at the front of the school.

Okay, that’s… When they got home from school that day, they said, Mama, my name was in lights. That joy has carried me for days.

I feel that. My name was in lights at my school. Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Ding.

Something that made me feel okay this week. I was at a playdate for my son, his BFF, and his BFF’s mom. We are outside of Minnesota and it’s cold this week.

I’m also moving my house and I was mentioning in a silly stressed way that I couldn’t find my winter gear, and my six-year-old reminded me that I lost my beloved mitten last year.

The other mom later pulled out a brand new pair of mittens that she bought for herself that day and gave them to me. They are so soft, comfy, and warm.

It’s seemingly small, but is one of the nicest things anyone has done for me, and a great reminder that kind, loving and generous people are among us. They are. I’m newly pregnant and terrified.

It seems like a terrible time to have a child, so I went on a spiral walk. Is there any other kind of walk? I saw a toddler and their I think parent, and the kid was so excited to stomp through the wet leaves and throw them around.

It made me think that everything will be okay for a little bit. Something that has helped me feel okay in the mess is watching the new season of Survivor together with my husband and teenage daughter each Wednesday night. Survivor is still on.

How are people still surviving? Have they not survived everything? I mean, the fact that Survivor is still going should tell us we can survive.

If that show can survive this many seasons, so too can we persevere through whatever it is that we’re going through. Similarly, I just started watching Dancing with the Stars. It’s important to my best friend Caroline Moss.

I got on a group chat. Sometimes my kids watch it with me. We are hooked.

I love it. I get it. I get it.

Like, I want to watch people ballroom dance, it turns out. Okay? And be judged for it.

The only thing feeling okay this year is the fact that we adopted Monty, a two-year-old husky poodle mix from Denver Animal Shelter this summer, and we’re teaching him new tricks every day. Here he is learning to jump over a mop handle.

When I say jump, he says, how many treats do you have? And we love him for it. There’s a TikTok of a woman having a very relatable crash out that’s become a legend in our family.

About halfway through, she cries, we’re all just living our lives for the first time, and that is now our mantra. Flopped on a tester work? Well, we’re all just living our lives for the first time.

Someone did something crappy and mean to you? Well, that person is living their life for the first time. It’s another way of saying we’re all human, but somehow it’s more comforting.

As a young widow with a youngish son, the world is now a very scary place, relatable, babe. But I found my new calm, which is needle pointing while watching a true crime documentary or lifetime movie. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

While my son plays football outside with the soon to be stepdad, enjoying the little things is really the biggest things. And now we’re entering the season where we decorate my late husband’s urn for the holidays, and we call it decking out dad.

And he would have loved that. I love that. I love that.

Decking out dad. I also got into needle point. I love needle point.

I love any sort of soothing craft. It turns out needle point is also very expensive, and I love to spend money I don’t have on a craft that I’m not good at yet.

I can’t handle true crime, but I do love to just put on like a reality show, just needle point, needle point, needle point. Everything else is just sort of ambient noise. Baby, I get it.

Did you know you can just go to a fancy hotel, sit in their cafe, dining area, bar, etc. and have a beverage, even if you’re not a guest?

It’s been a little thing I’ve been doing to make myself feel a little bit better in the moment about the world burning around us.

This is an Arizona number, and can I tell you, I did know this, because my sister-in-law, shout out Nikki, she was the one who was like, oh, do you want to go have lunch at this fancy resort? And I was like, what?

Yeah, you can just go there and have lunch. Or you can just go there and get a coffee and work. It turns out we haven’t done that in a minute, Nikki.

We got to go do that again. That was such a beautiful part of my life. Yes.

It’s actually one thing I really love about living in Arizona. Great resorts, and you can just visit them for a day. You can also just go use the spa.

You can book one spa appointment and then like use the pool and the spa. Life hacks. Okay.

Context. My very best friend died this summer, and my husband is laid off during the shutdown, so things are feeling not okay. Two nights ago, deep in grief and worry, my husband offered to put lotion on my back and shoulders.

Hello, Minnesota, winter dry skin season. And I’m waiting and waiting. I turn around and the man is blowing into his hands to warm up the lotion.

I have never felt more loved.

I’m going to cry.

Things will be okay again. Warming up the lotion before he rubs it on your back and shoulders because it’s the Minnesota dry season? What’s this man trying to pull?

Okay, what’s he trying to prove to us? Why is he trying to make me sob on a Friday? And yes, I cry a lot on this podcast, but I’ve said this before.

I will be getting my period tomorrow. I love to film right when I’m in that phase where everything just feels like I am one raw nerve. That was too beautiful and I’m happy for you.

I love this man, not in a weird way.

So the power of finding an okay thing and sharing it is, it does have this magic effect of reminding people of the okay things that are around us, sort of reminding us to tune ourselves towards the things that aren’t absolutely horrible.

And again, I’m not here to force you to look for a silver lining. I am not here to gaslight you. I’m not here to bright side you.

I am here to just remind you that even when things are very, very dark, there is someone out there who is holding a lit match, saying, let’s burn this down. Just kidding, saying, hey, look, I’m here. You are not alone.

And I know this season is complicated for a lot of people for a lot of different reasons. And I know that even if it’s not complicated for you, you might have some complicated feelings just because things are stressful.

Things are stressful, big picture, and things are also stressful, little picture. And guess what? When things are stressful, big picture, you don’t get to take a break on the little picture stuff.

When things are stressful, personally, the world isn’t like, okay, we’re gonna stop. We’re gonna stop with the headlines and the disasters. We are going to give you a break personally.

That’s not how it works. And I want this episode to really be a reminder to everybody.

And I’m saying this as much to myself as I’m saying it to you, that it is okay if you don’t just feel gratitude and thankfulness during the season of gratitude and Thanksgiving.

It is okay to feel grief and gratitude, happiness and horror, to feel thankful and to just feel like life is thankless right now. There is space for all of that.

It is okay to love the life that you have and miss the life that you had and long for the life that you want. It is okay. Most people out there are feeling very similar things, even if their situations appear to be very different from yours.

So we are gonna keep our eyes open.

We’re going to find more okay things. We are going to be back again with more. It’s going to be okay.

But as you know, this is a group project. So we need your okay things. We need your okay things.

You can text the same number. If the number that you saved for us is the Thanks For Asking number, we’ll get it, we’ll get it. But we do have a separate number for it’s going to be okay.

So, you know, like, and I like having two separate numbers. Okay, so you can call, you can text. The number is 502-388-OKAY, which is 502-388-6529.

Get it? So it’s 502-388-6529. That’s 502-388-OKAY.

You get it? You get it. Or Igtbo at feelingsand.co.

So, you send us OKAY things, we’ll make more episodes. Again, group project, team effort. This is how we make something.

And you know what? If you don’t want to, if you were like, this one episode was good enough, that’s also OKAY. This is a production of Feelings & Co.

We are the definition of a group project. Marcel Malekibu is our producer. Grace Berry is also.

She’s a kind of producer. We probably should like come up with a job title for her. She definitely produces a lot of videos.

Basically, anything that Marcel and I don’t do, Grace does. Really an MDP all around. Very talented, very smart, working on a novel.

There’s just a lot to love about Grace Berry. You can get ad-free episodes of everything that we make over on Substack. It’s noraboriales.substack.com.

You can join there, sign up and support. No pressure, truly. You don’t have to at all.

But also, we’ve got a YouTube baby. We’ve got a YouTube and pop on over there. It’s linked in our episode description.

This episode will, at some point, it’ll be a video. So that’s a cool thing. And 11,000 people are over there watching our videos.

I don’t want to brag, I’m getting hundreds of views, hundreds of views. Okay, like, there was a week where I made like $2.69 on YouTube.

So, okay.

Things are, I think you can say it’s paying off. That’s what you can say. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

All right, and big thanks, as always, to our supporting producers over on Substack. They’ve just said, I’m gonna put in some extra money, I’m gonna get my name in the credits. But they, all of you, all of you keep us going.

Thank you, but big thanks to our supporting producers, Joy Heising, KM., Nancy Duff, Jenny Medellin, Jordan Jones, Sheila, Sheila, Kathleen Langerman, Ben, Jess, Michelle Toms, Tom Stockburger, Jen, Beth Derry, Stacey DeMoro, Emily Ferriso, Stephanie

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Hey, Nora.

I’m Nora McInerny, and this is Thanks For Asking, a call-in show about what matters to you. Hi, everybody, it’s Nora McInerny, and this is Thanks For Asking, and It’s Going To Be Okay. For a few years there, we made this little daily show.

I say little, but honestly, it was ranking very high, top percentage of podcasts worldwide. A number that, like so many other numbers in the world, really does not mean much.

But the point is we made this little daily show called It’s Going To Be Okay. It was like five to eight minutes, a little bit of okay for your day. We shared something, something small that made other people feel like it was going to be okay.

Was everything going to be okay? No, we aren’t stupid. We don’t look around at the world that we all inhabit, that we are all aware of its many flaws and say, you know what, guys, everything’s going to be okay.

Don’t sweat it. We say, look, let’s acknowledge that we’re all sweating very much right now. We’re all very, very worried.

And before we fall into the pit of despair, let us take our little finger, that little weak fingernail there, hook on to one small bit of hope, one okay thing, and let’s just try to hang on. Let’s just hang in there a little bit.

Now, the origin of this show, if you already know, this is boring to you. But if you’re new, it might also be boring to you. Either way, I’m the one talking, so you could fast-forward, or I don’t know why I’m bringing this attitude to this show.

I really don’t. But the origin of the show, that phrase, it’s going to be okay. You’ve heard it before.

We’ve all heard it before. It’s something that people just say. But it’s special to me because it is something that my husband Aaron said to me while he was dying.

Also something that he said to me when he wasn’t dying, when he was young, when he was healthy, when we did not know that inside of his head, he was also growing a brain tumor that would ultimately kill him. He was breezy. He was buoyant.

I’m not. I am naturally depressed. I am the brick that was tied to his emotional balloon and he somehow kept me afloat.

And when he was dying, he looked me in the eye and he said, it’s going to be okay. And I thought to myself, you have a brain tumor, you’re on morphine, you can’t be trusted. It’s not actually not gonna be okay at all.

Thank you for sharing that though. Anything else you would like to share with me? He shared many things.

Many of them were very personal, but I will tell you right now that he did ask me to stop picking my nose and I have tried. But I love it. I love it.

I hate the feeling of boogers in my nose. I don’t know how people walk around with just like stuff in their nose. I gotta get it out.

We’re not talking about picking boogers, except we always are talking about picking boogers. If you’re with me. So, It’s Going To Be Okay was a show for a while.

We stepped away. We just did not have the capacity to do it. And then I looked at the world and I said like, do we have the capacity to not do it?

Do we have the capacity to not find something okay in our days right now? So I put out the call. I said, folks, do you want to bring back It’s Going To Be Okay?

Different format. It’s got to be a little bit longer. It’s not going to be daily.

It’s going to be like everything I do, wildly unpredictable. And at least five of you said yes. So here we are.

And we’re releasing this episode right now, because what are we entering right now? We are entering the holiday season. We are specifically entering the Thanksgiving season, followed by more holiday season to come.

And I am in all of those seasons, but I am also in my grief season. I am. This is the time of year, 11 years ago, where just everything happened.

Just everything happened. And again, if you know this, maybe you’re bored by it, but like, lost a pregnancy, my dad died, my husband died. Like, I won the Bummer Olympics in 2014.

And it wasn’t even a contest, because that contest doesn’t exist. Life is hard for everybody. But at the time, I really thought it was just hard for me, and I was the center of the universe.

So this time of year is hard for everybody. And it might be hard for you for completely different reasons, but we are here to remind each other, to remind ourselves that even when it feels like everything is hopeless, that’s not true.

There is something okay in your day. Aaron never said everything was going to be okay. He did not even specify what it was.

It can be anything. And sometimes it is so small, sometimes it is so silly, but it doesn’t matter.

It doesn’t matter because whatever it is, we’re looking at it, we’re noticing it, we’re sharing it with the class, and we are going to let it carry us as far as it can take us. So, so let’s go.

Hi, it’s gone to the OK team.

I lived through the Eaton fire in Alta Dena in January this year. I’m incredibly lucky that my house did not burn, but it got very close and it was a terrifying experience. Three weeks later, my mom died very unexpectedly at age 61.

I’ve had a bad year. But I did also discover a new love this year and that is pinball. My husband suggested I join a local women’s league and I went for it.

I’m still not very good, but it has been such a pleasure to discover a new side of myself and find something that brings me such joy. It is also great for getting out aggression, which I have a lot of now.

I’m grateful to know that there are still parts of me that I haven’t discovered yet and I can find some joy amongst all the pain. I hope that this story encourages other people to continue to discover themselves no matter what they are going through.

Thank you.

Pinball team. Didn’t even know that was a thing. I played pinball a little bit.

I did not know that it was, I knew it was a game of skill because I’m not good at it. That’s how I know that something takes skill. If I’m not good at it, I say someone else must be and they must have some quality that I don’t have.

Did not know there were teams, did not know that, I’ll be honest, I didn’t think pinball was a skill. I didn’t. I thought pinball was luck and none of those points mean anything.

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Hi, Nora.

My name is Kate, and I work at Arizona State University. I wanted to tell you what makes me feel okay in this world.

It would absolutely be the students that I serve through my work with the TRIO grant, where we serve students who are first-generation in a family to go to college, low-income, and or have a documented disability, and we are their human Google that

like assist them with anything they need to graduate. One of those students who I happen to walk to campus with once in a while is an 81-year-old lady named Brenda. Brenda is pursuing her degree in linguistics.

She’s had about nine lives, Air Force veteran, worldwide traveler, wear of amazing hats. She was an interior decorator. She’s done it all.

And she walks with her walker about two miles, back and forth to the Tempe campus all year, including the summer. Definitely tell her to take the bus because it’s too hot, but she’s amazing.

Brenda and all my other students give me such joy throughout every day. So thank you for having this post and this prompt, and have a wonderful rest of your day. Bye.

I love Brenda.

Brenda now just made my day. We’ve put out a few episodes of Thanks For Asking about reminding ourselves that we’re not too old, it’s not too late, you will have nine lives, possibly more.

I actually, this is jogging a memory of an okay thing from this morning, truly a day maker from this morning. I was running late.

I like to go to the fancy grocery store, AJ’s Fine Foods here in Phoenix, Arizona, to get myself an Arnold Palmer to start my day, half lemonade, half iced tea. People never know what I’m talking about when I say Arnie Palmer.

If you’re watching this video on YouTube, please know that I know that this dress is falling down, and I know that my push-up bra is out.

If you’re listening to this, just know that I am wearing the Skims push-up bra, and it is out, because this dress does, this dress is not meant for sitting. This dress is meant for standing. This dress is not a working dress.

But I’m at AJ’s Fine Foods. They’ve got a number system. It’s number 57 when I walk in.

I pull a number, I’m 62. They are a machine, but it moves pretty fast, and you never know, like they’ll say 60, 61, 62. You gotta raise your hand, you gotta be heard.

I say, oh yeah, I’m 62. Turns out 61 was this old woman who was like off to the side of the register. She just didn’t get noticed.

I said, oh, I budged you. I had already placed my order for my Arnie Palmer. I said, please let me get your stuff.

She said, you don’t have to do that. I’m not like some poor old woman. I said, I know you’re not a poor old woman, but like, you know, I budged you.

It was rude. I have to use a credit card for a $1 refill. Please give me the dignity of not putting a dollar on a credit card.

So got her a latte, paid for a little breakfast. We got to talking. Oh, she’s 95.

I said, you don’t look a day over 80. 95, Irma? Right away, she tells me she grew up in Phoenix.

She’s had nine lives. She used to be an interior decorator in Santa Monica, California. That was a while ago.

But her first career, she was 11 years as a teacher. She was married to some guy. She didn’t want to say anything bad about him.

I said, please do. She wouldn’t. And then she moved out to California and started her life over.

And now she’s back here. We got to talking. I said, do you want to sit and have breakfast?

She said, no, I have plenty of people to sit with. And I said, got it. But yeah, that’s my Brenda.

My Brenda is Irma. And I love women, always. I love women who are still living their lives, who are living their ninth life, their tenth life, women who are still out there doing what they want to do.

Hey, Nora and team.

This is Pam from Minneapolis, responding to Grace’s post about what’s making us feel okay right now.

And I would say women singer and songwriters, Brandi Carlile, Amanda Shires, and actually Taylor Swift’s new one is making me feel okay. Especially Taylor’s Opalite. That is a joy-filled, perfect song to me.

It instantly puts me in a better mood. So thanks for putting all the good things out in the world, Nora and team, and talk to you later.

Love that. I love all of, you know, I’ve listed a little bit to the new Amanda Shires, but I have not. Okay, I’m going to read some texts too to keep it fresh.

Okay.

My daughter recently brought home a scholastic book fair catalog from preschool.

The amount of comfort and nostalgia that brought me in this stupid era of AI calmed my nervous system like nothing has in a long time. We had a tough year.

My husband and I both lost our previous jobs due to the new administration policies, aka we got dozed. I worked in the federal government for over a decade, and he was a government contractor.

We are all good now, and we have new jobs and happy to be out of that stress.

Anyway, scholastic book fairs were a highlight of my school year growing up, and it makes me so happy to know that the tradition lives on and is imparted to our little ones now. Who doesn’t love to skip class and go look at fun books as a kid?

I feel the same way when I get the scholastic book fair catalog at our house, and there’s something about the paper that it’s printed on. It’s like the thinnest newsprint. It has a specific smell to it.

If they ever change that, I don’t know if I’ll recover mentally, but instant nostalgia and it’s also very hard for me to say no to consumerism when the thing that my child wants is a book.

Hi, Nora, I’m calling because one thing that has been making me feel really okay in a not really okay world lately has been my job and my coworkers. We range in age from 25 to 52. We’re all different races and genders and backgrounds.

And we mix together so well and work together so well and respect each other and have a phenomenal manager and team lead. And if anyone’s struggling at work or outside of work, we make sure that we help them and we help each other.

And I’ve been at the company almost 10 years and I never want to leave. And I’m just really, really happy that I get to go to a place every day where people at that place make it so joyous when the outside world and even sometimes work is not joyous.

They make me feel okay and they remind me that their coworkers, they don’t have to care about each other or me. They don’t have to and they do. And they do more than just their job.

They care about marriages and births and graduations and milestones and helping each other out. And I’m so proud of them as a manager on the team.

And yeah, I think they’re just the greatest example in our big company of putting this crazy group of people together and they all get along. So going to work Monday through Friday is making me feel really okay.

And they make me feel okay as this wonderful community of people.

Thank you.

I love knowing that people have jobs that they love with people that they love.

We spend so much time at work that it’s really, it’s, I don’t know, it’s really lovely to hear people say like that’s their okay thing, is the people that they work with, even if it’s not always the work itself.

A small thing that makes me feel okay right now is two 14-year-old eighth-grade girls begging to be in the counseling office, I’m a middle school counselor, for lunch, just to be together in matching outfits, playing the silliest games, eating

snacks, saying, Miss, I need to talk to you so bad about trauma, about family, about weight and body issues and everything in between. I love that these kids feel so safe that they want to go to the school counselor’s office, I’m sorry, but in the

90s, there was no greater punishment than being sent to the counselor’s office. I just cannot imagine being that.

So I hope you know that now you are somebody’s okay thing, like you were those girls’ okay thing, and now you are my okay thing, because now I am reminded that out in this big scary world, there is somebody that 14-year-old girls feel safe around,

and feel excited to be around. So thank you for sharing that. My dad still has no clue who I am. The people I serve as director of a program for unhoused women and children are still suffering.

My mental health is still teetering, and now, less than a month ago, my mother-in-law died. I’m marinating in grief and being not okay, but I’m stumbling through every day with just enough to be okay. Does that make sense?

Does that make sense is the tagline of every woman you know, who just said the most beautiful, deep and perfectly cogent thing? Does that make sense? Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense, babe. I walk around wanting people to know that I’m caring so much, wanting to be seen as a person with so many layers of experience, many of them grief-filled. Then I remember, isn’t that all of us?

That reminder helps me handle the world with gloves, lace and empathy, patience and care. So I’ll probably never be okay, but I will always be okay. How wild is that shit?

Thanks for listening. Thank you for sharing that. That’s absolutely, absolutely right.

That’s all of us. On an episode of It’s Going To Be Okay, Ralph shared his inspirational chant of, You’re good, you’re safe, you’re doing great. You’re good, you’re safe, you’re doing great.

This saying has become deeply rooted in my family and in my professional practice as a special education teacher.

There have been countless times the young people in my life have been calmed and encouraged and supported during challenging moments with those words. There have been countless times they have helped me too.

It’s one of my favorite things to think about when things seem particularly shitty. You never know when the right words or gesture can so significantly impact people you have never even met.

I cannot wait to tell that to Ralph today because that was so long ago. He was like a little kid. He was in maybe like fourth grade and he said that.

He like coined this phrase. I have the sticker on my mirror. I say that to myself every day.

I hope he still says that to himself every day and I love knowing that that still hits with people. Thank you.

Hi, Nora and Grace.

This is Carrie in Phoenix, Arizona. I’m calling to tell you something that has made me feel okay recently. I planted a butterfly garden in my front yard and I wasn’t sure it would work.

But it has worked marvelously. And this means that as I’m calling you, I’m watching dozens of butterflies split and flutter on the blossoms. And I stop and look out the window or go outside multiple times a day just to take a second and look at them.

And they flutter around me. And it really is a beautiful thing. So just wanted to share that with you all.

I hope that you have a great day. Thanks.

Bye-bye. Matt, thank you for making a butterfly garden in Phoenix, Arizona. We are not going to despair over the monarch population.

We’re going to plant butterfly gardens. I actually wrote to the City of Phoenix, had this program where they would send you a pollinator seed kit. I got it next year, baby.

Actually this winter, we are planting pollinators. We are planting more native plants. We are going to cool down our city.

We are pulling up all the gravel. Gravel, not good. Gravel, the scourge, the scourge of landscaping.

Who did gravel? Who told us that we just got to throw rocks on stuff, okay? If there’s any landscapers who are like, oh, actually, gravel is time and place.

I believe you. I believe you. I just don’t think it’s Phoenix, Arizona, which is boiling and like hot rocks.

Let’s throw some hot rocks on the ground, okay? No, let’s get some plants in there, baby. So thank you for that.

I went to a Lucy Dacus concert in September at this beautiful theater in my city.

She married eight couples on stage to her song Best Guess, most of them queer. That’s such a beautiful song, Best Guess. Lucy Dacus in general, beautiful.

It felt like this beautiful cozy sanctuary of love and safety. We all cried. Hi Nora, I feel like things are going to be okay because of something my kid said.

They just turned nine on the third. It was their first time that they were at school for their birthday. Nothing better.

I never got to experience that. I was born three days after Christmas, but the celebrity status you get at school, there’s three things, having a cast or some other temporary impairment. A cast crutches.

Oh my gosh, popularity through the roof. People are so curious. Two, leaving school for a doctor or dental appointment and coming back with McDonald’s.

Celebrity status. Third, birthday at school. Amazing.

Great. Love this weird kid. So, of course, we paid the fee to have their name up on the light up sign at the front of the school.

Okay, that’s… When they got home from school that day, they said, Mama, my name was in lights. That joy has carried me for days.

I feel that. My name was in lights at my school. Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Ding.

Something that made me feel okay this week. I was at a playdate for my son, his BFF, and his BFF’s mom. We are outside of Minnesota and it’s cold this week.

I’m also moving my house and I was mentioning in a silly stressed way that I couldn’t find my winter gear, and my six-year-old reminded me that I lost my beloved mitten last year.

The other mom later pulled out a brand new pair of mittens that she bought for herself that day and gave them to me. They are so soft, comfy, and warm.

It’s seemingly small, but is one of the nicest things anyone has done for me, and a great reminder that kind, loving and generous people are among us. They are. I’m newly pregnant and terrified.

It seems like a terrible time to have a child, so I went on a spiral walk. Is there any other kind of walk? I saw a toddler and their I think parent, and the kid was so excited to stomp through the wet leaves and throw them around.

It made me think that everything will be okay for a little bit. Something that has helped me feel okay in the mess is watching the new season of Survivor together with my husband and teenage daughter each Wednesday night. Survivor is still on.

How are people still surviving? Have they not survived everything? I mean, the fact that Survivor is still going should tell us we can survive.

If that show can survive this many seasons, so too can we persevere through whatever it is that we’re going through. Similarly, I just started watching Dancing with the Stars. It’s important to my best friend Caroline Moss.

I got on a group chat. Sometimes my kids watch it with me. We are hooked.

I love it. I get it. I get it.

Like, I want to watch people ballroom dance, it turns out. Okay? And be judged for it.

The only thing feeling okay this year is the fact that we adopted Monty, a two-year-old husky poodle mix from Denver Animal Shelter this summer, and we’re teaching him new tricks every day. Here he is learning to jump over a mop handle.

When I say jump, he says, how many treats do you have? And we love him for it. There’s a TikTok of a woman having a very relatable crash out that’s become a legend in our family.

About halfway through, she cries, we’re all just living our lives for the first time, and that is now our mantra. Flopped on a tester work? Well, we’re all just living our lives for the first time.

Someone did something crappy and mean to you? Well, that person is living their life for the first time. It’s another way of saying we’re all human, but somehow it’s more comforting.

As a young widow with a youngish son, the world is now a very scary place, relatable, babe. But I found my new calm, which is needle pointing while watching a true crime documentary or lifetime movie. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

While my son plays football outside with the soon to be stepdad, enjoying the little things is really the biggest things. And now we’re entering the season where we decorate my late husband’s urn for the holidays, and we call it decking out dad.

And he would have loved that. I love that. I love that.

Decking out dad. I also got into needle point. I love needle point.

I love any sort of soothing craft. It turns out needle point is also very expensive, and I love to spend money I don’t have on a craft that I’m not good at yet.

I can’t handle true crime, but I do love to just put on like a reality show, just needle point, needle point, needle point. Everything else is just sort of ambient noise. Baby, I get it.

Did you know you can just go to a fancy hotel, sit in their cafe, dining area, bar, etc. and have a beverage, even if you’re not a guest?

It’s been a little thing I’ve been doing to make myself feel a little bit better in the moment about the world burning around us.

This is an Arizona number, and can I tell you, I did know this, because my sister-in-law, shout out Nikki, she was the one who was like, oh, do you want to go have lunch at this fancy resort? And I was like, what?

Yeah, you can just go there and have lunch. Or you can just go there and get a coffee and work. It turns out we haven’t done that in a minute, Nikki.

We got to go do that again. That was such a beautiful part of my life. Yes.

It’s actually one thing I really love about living in Arizona. Great resorts, and you can just visit them for a day. You can also just go use the spa.

You can book one spa appointment and then like use the pool and the spa. Life hacks. Okay.

Context. My very best friend died this summer, and my husband is laid off during the shutdown, so things are feeling not okay. Two nights ago, deep in grief and worry, my husband offered to put lotion on my back and shoulders.

Hello, Minnesota, winter dry skin season. And I’m waiting and waiting. I turn around and the man is blowing into his hands to warm up the lotion.

I have never felt more loved.

I’m going to cry.

Things will be okay again. Warming up the lotion before he rubs it on your back and shoulders because it’s the Minnesota dry season? What’s this man trying to pull?

Okay, what’s he trying to prove to us? Why is he trying to make me sob on a Friday? And yes, I cry a lot on this podcast, but I’ve said this before.

I will be getting my period tomorrow. I love to film right when I’m in that phase where everything just feels like I am one raw nerve. That was too beautiful and I’m happy for you.

I love this man, not in a weird way.

So the power of finding an okay thing and sharing it is, it does have this magic effect of reminding people of the okay things that are around us, sort of reminding us to tune ourselves towards the things that aren’t absolutely horrible.

And again, I’m not here to force you to look for a silver lining. I am not here to gaslight you. I’m not here to bright side you.

I am here to just remind you that even when things are very, very dark, there is someone out there who is holding a lit match, saying, let’s burn this down. Just kidding, saying, hey, look, I’m here. You are not alone.

And I know this season is complicated for a lot of people for a lot of different reasons. And I know that even if it’s not complicated for you, you might have some complicated feelings just because things are stressful.

Things are stressful, big picture, and things are also stressful, little picture. And guess what? When things are stressful, big picture, you don’t get to take a break on the little picture stuff.

When things are stressful, personally, the world isn’t like, okay, we’re gonna stop. We’re gonna stop with the headlines and the disasters. We are going to give you a break personally.

That’s not how it works. And I want this episode to really be a reminder to everybody.

And I’m saying this as much to myself as I’m saying it to you, that it is okay if you don’t just feel gratitude and thankfulness during the season of gratitude and Thanksgiving.

It is okay to feel grief and gratitude, happiness and horror, to feel thankful and to just feel like life is thankless right now. There is space for all of that.

It is okay to love the life that you have and miss the life that you had and long for the life that you want. It is okay. Most people out there are feeling very similar things, even if their situations appear to be very different from yours.

So we are gonna keep our eyes open.

We’re going to find more okay things. We are going to be back again with more. It’s going to be okay.

But as you know, this is a group project. So we need your okay things. We need your okay things.

You can text the same number. If the number that you saved for us is the Thanks For Asking number, we’ll get it, we’ll get it. But we do have a separate number for it’s going to be okay.

So, you know, like, and I like having two separate numbers. Okay, so you can call, you can text. The number is 502-388-OKAY, which is 502-388-6529.

Get it? So it’s 502-388-6529. That’s 502-388-OKAY.

You get it? You get it. Or Igtbo at feelingsand.co.

So, you send us OKAY things, we’ll make more episodes. Again, group project, team effort. This is how we make something.

And you know what? If you don’t want to, if you were like, this one episode was good enough, that’s also OKAY. This is a production of Feelings & Co.

We are the definition of a group project. Marcel Malekibu is our producer. Grace Berry is also.

She’s a kind of producer. We probably should like come up with a job title for her. She definitely produces a lot of videos.

Basically, anything that Marcel and I don’t do, Grace does. Really an MDP all around. Very talented, very smart, working on a novel.

There’s just a lot to love about Grace Berry. You can get ad-free episodes of everything that we make over on Substack. It’s noraboriales.substack.com.

You can join there, sign up and support. No pressure, truly. You don’t have to at all.

But also, we’ve got a YouTube baby. We’ve got a YouTube and pop on over there. It’s linked in our episode description.

This episode will, at some point, it’ll be a video. So that’s a cool thing. And 11,000 people are over there watching our videos.

I don’t want to brag, I’m getting hundreds of views, hundreds of views. Okay, like, there was a week where I made like $2.69 on YouTube.

So, okay.

Things are, I think you can say it’s paying off. That’s what you can say. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

All right, and big thanks, as always, to our supporting producers over on Substack. They’ve just said, I’m gonna put in some extra money, I’m gonna get my name in the credits. But they, all of you, all of you keep us going.

Thank you, but big thanks to our supporting producers, Joy Heising, KM., Nancy Duff, Jenny Medellin, Jordan Jones, Sheila, Sheila, Kathleen Langerman, Ben, Jess, Michelle Toms, Tom Stockburger, Jen, Beth Derry, Stacey DeMoro, Emily Ferriso, Stephanie

Johnson, Faye Barons, Amanda, Sarah Garifo, Jennifer McDagle, Elia, Filiz, Milan, Lindsay Lund, Renee Kepke, Chelsea Cernick, Car Pan, LGS, all caps. Jennifer McDagle is also all caps, I forgot to say that.

Stacey Wilson, Courtney McCown, Kaylee Sakai, Mary Beth Barry, my high school gym teacher, Joe Theodosopoulos, Mad, Abby Arose, Elizabeth Berkley, Kim F., Melody Swinford, Val, Lauren Hanna, Katie, Jessica Letexier, Jay Crystal Mann, Lisa Piven, Kate

Lyon, Christina, Sarah David, Kate Beyerjohn, Aaron John, Joy Pollock, Crystal, Jennifer Pivelka, Jess Blackwell, Micah, Jessica Reed, Beth Lippem, Kiara, Jill MacDonald, Jen Grimlin, Alexis Lane, David Binkley, Kathy Hamm, Virginia Labassi, Lizzie

DeVries, Jeremy Essin, Anne DeBraszynski, Robin Ruler, Nicole Petey, Monica, Caroline Moss, Rachel Walton, Inga, Bonnie Robinson, Shannon Dominguez-Stevens, Penny Pesta, Kaylee, Dave Gilmore and Jacqueline Ryder. Thank you guys so much. We’ll see you again next week. And again, if you want more is going to be okay, let us know because we really do think that it will be.

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