445. IGTBO: Widow Weddings, Sleepovers, and My Dead Uncle’s Sweater
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You’ve seen the headlines. You’ve looked at the world. You know, like we do, that not everything is going to be OK. But to start 2026, we’re going to look at some of the things that make us feel like something will be OK. If you need a sign that there is still good in the world, let this be it.
About It's Going to Be OK
If you have anxiety, depression or any sense of the world around you, you know that not *everything* is going to be okay. In fact, many things aren’t okay and never will be!
But instead of falling into the pit of despair, we’re bringing you a little OK for your day. Every weekday, we’ll bring you one okay thing to help you start, end or endure your day with the opposite of a doom scroll.
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Share your OK thing at 502-388-6529 or by emailing a note or voice memo to [email protected]. Start your message with “I’m (name) and it’s going to be okay.”
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I’m Nora McInerny, and It’s Going To Be OK. Please notice, I did not say everything is going to be OK. I didn’t say everything is going to be OK because I don’t know that it will be.
I don’t believe that everything will be OK. Not everything. No, no, no, no.
Some things, some things, definitely not everything. You’ve seen the headlines. You’ve looked at the world.
We could all list numerous things that are not OK, will not be OK, would never in a million years be OK. But, but, but, but. We also know, I know personally, that even in the darkest moments, even when things feel hopeless, there is always hope.
There is always some point of light in the dark, and that is what this show is. This show is your reminder that not everything is terrible. It is not a denial of the terrible things that exist in this world.
We are here to say that the world is not 100% terrible. We are here to put some OK in your day. Now, this show used to be a 5 to 10 minute daily show.
It is no longer that. These are longer episodes. It’s no longer that.
These are longer episodes now. I hope you like them. I got three text messages to our phone number saying that you were into it, and that was enough for me to say, OK, let’s keep going.
So today, in the world of OK things, we’ve got a lot to share with you. We have a widow wedding. We have potentially a good billionaire.
We have a possible spam message that still touched my soul deeply. We have a PowerPoint. We have a pep talk.
We have so much more. So let’s get into it. If you are going to have a show called It’s Going To Be OK and you are going to encourage people to find OK things in their day, you better be looking for the OK things in yours.
So I’m going to get started with a few examples of the OK things, actually pretty good things, if I’m going to brag from my own life. This year is still new. I’m recording this on January 5th.
So we’re talking a little bit about last year, but also about this year. OK, first off, my mom came down from Minneapolis to Phoenix, Arizona, and spent Christmas and New Year’s with us, which was so wonderful. She was here for 10 days.
I think a lot of people would hear that and think that is not for them. That is so for me. I love having guests.
I love having my mother as a guest specifically. She is still my mom, right? But as a kid, she was like the kind of mom who just, she did make things magical.
She did make things fun. Nothing was predictable, but I always knew that my mom would find some way for us to have a little bit of an adventure. She just brings that spirit to any room that she’s in, and she brings that to my kids as well.
They love being around her. My nine-year-old willingly and excitedly gave up his room for 10 days so that she could have some privacy, have a room to stay in. We do not have a guest room.
Our house is simply not that big. And he would have given it up permanently, given the option. He didn’t have that option.
She has a life that she had to get back to. But he was like, no, please stay. Please stay.
And he made her a little welcome sign. And it was very sweet. I really loved that.
Also over break, our older son, our oldest son, is 24 years old. He has his own apartment, and he invited our youngest son, again, who is nine years old, to spend the night with him.
And if you’ve ever had an older sibling, like a significantly older sibling or cousin or somebody who was not a celebrity, but felt like a celebrity to you, you know the significance of like this kind of sleepover.
My sister is eight years older than me. And when she moved out and got her own apartment and I would be invited to stay with her, it was to me better than Disneyland, which I had never been to Disneyland.
But having been there at age 40, I can confidently say staying at my sister’s itsy bitsy apartment in uptown Minneapolis was better than Disneyland, probably more fun than I would have had even going to Disney in the 90s.
But it was very, I just love that. That he invited his brother, and I love that his little brother wanted to go, and that he truly had the time of his life. He woke up the day that he was supposed to sleep over.
He woke up at 5:30 a.m. and packed a bag. I had to say, your brother’s not awake yet.
I don’t think he was going to pick you up for the sleepover at 5:30 a.m. or 6.30 or 7.30 or 8.30. I don’t think he was picking you up in the a.m., buddy.
I don’t think he’s going to. Trying to get back into kind of like the swing of things after a break can be a little bit tough, but part of my routine is that I stop at the fancy grocery store, usually on my way to work.
Sometimes I might take a midday break. I get every day an Arnold Palmer.
There’s been a few days where it’s been a little bit too chilly for me to have one, but they’ve got that soft pebble ice at the fancy grocery store, and if you use their reusable cup, which costs $60 American dollars, I know.
It’s a Yeti, so it’s I think just a markup of like $30. Then this is considered a refill that only costs $1. Now, I go every day, so I do believe that this has paid for itself, but I am truly unable to do that math.
Anyways, because I brought my reusable mug on my first day back to work trying to get into the swing of things, brought this reusable mug, went to the grocery store, order my Arnold Palmer. It’s only $1.
And I don’t want to use a card for $1, so I’m digging through my bag. I’m trying to scrounge up 100 cents. All my coins are sticky.
I don’t know why, but they were. And I’m juggling a lot of stuff. It’s my turn to pay.
I feel a tap on my shoulder, and it’s an elderly man. And he said, let me get this one for you. And I don’t know if he just felt bad for me that I was struggling to come up with a dollar and change.
I don’t care. It was so nice of him. And we’re barely into this year, and a little act of kindness really does go a long way.
And that’s such a reminder. He just made my day for it. It only cost him a dollar.
I almost said it didn’t cost him anything. It did. It cost him a dollar.
And that includes tax. So truly $1 flat rate to make my day. Also, over the course of, over the past few months, I discovered a new favorite writer, a new favorite writer of mine.
I read Heart the Lover, I believe in November, by Lilly King, Heart the Lover. I wrote about it in my monthly book roundup. And I was just so enamored with the way that this woman writes and the way that she builds a world.
And I discovered that she has written several books. And I have been on a full binge of her entire backlist. I have read them on the Libby app.
I have found, you know, like physical copies. And it’s hard for me, because I want to savor these stories. And I also just like can’t get enough of them.
And I do find myself like reading them like really quickly. But I am, I’m like, I’m absorbing it. I’m digesting it.
But that’s something that’s really like getting me through to lately, or they’ve just like really enjoyed. It’s kind of gotten me out of like this reading slump and like really looking forward to reading every day.
So right now, I’m reading The Pleasing Hour by Lily King. And it takes place in France. I’m on like chapter three.
It takes place in France. And this girl is, you know, in Au Pair or Ajeune Fille, as they’re called, like a, which I believe means summer girl. I haven’t looked it up.
She’s, or maybe means young girl. I don’t know what it means. I know it means girl, but she’s, you know, she’s a nanny for this family.
They live on a houseboat. And, you know, you know that she left America for a reason. You don’t know the whole backstory yet.
And that’s something that Lily King does so well is, I’m like in this world, even if I don’t like fully understand it, I know it. I’m in it. I’m immersed in it.
And again, finding a new writer that you love and like getting really, really, really, really into all their work is so great. It’s like one of my favorite things.
And another one of my favorite things, one of my OK-est things, I just realized this today is I am wearing this sweater, this beautiful cashmere sweater, Navy blue, and it’s monogrammed with a DQM. Those are not my initials.
Those are my uncle’s initials. He died in December. I got to go to Wisconsin for the funeral and see my family.
And I know you’re thinking like the show’s called It’s Going To Be OK, feels like it should be uplifting. Why are we talking about a funeral? Baby, I love a funeral, OK?
Nothing is more life-affirming to me than death, a funeral, like it’s just truly some of my favorite social gatherings. And I believe that’s the Catholic in me speaking. But I bought this sweater as a gift for my uncle.
He was 89 when he died, a philosopher. And, you know, I never like lived like a real like ascetic lifestyle. Maybe it’s pronounced ascetic.
I don’t know. Just very, very, very simple life. And I bought him this sweater so that he would have, you know, something cozy and beautiful.
And he wrote me like the nicest thank you note when I sent it to him a few Christmases ago. And when we went to go clean out his apartment, I found it. And I thought, I’ll wear that, I’ll wear that and remember him.
And I’m wearing it today. It’s very rare this winter in Phoenix that it gets cold enough to actually wear a sweater. I won’t go again.
We’re going to keep it. It’s going to be OK. Not Nora has a spiral about climate change, but they’re just things, right?
But to have things that belong to somebody that you loved is like a way of like keeping them close and something that I really like. Those are some of my OK things. I do write them down when they happen to me.
I have a note on my notes app. I’ve got a little notebook, but this podcast is and always has been a group project. So we’re going to stop talking about my OK things and we are going to talk about your OK things.
The things that you found out in the world, sent to me and said, this makes me feel like it is going to be OK.
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Inspiring Community Stories
All right, first up, we have a new story that I would call The Bride Wore White Water Shoes.
This one is for the widows, the widowers, anyone who believes that they are not going to find love because maybe it’s too late for them, have I got news for you.
So imagine swimming laps at the YMCA and then finding out that you are crashing a wedding. These two elderly people, Marlene Parsons and Edward LaRue Senior, didn’t walk down the aisle for their second wedding.
They walked out of the locker room of the YMCA and they said, I do in the same place where they fell in love, which is the YMCA swimming pool where they met during water aerobics.
Their origin story is that he was splashing people, which a lot of their classmates didn’t think was funny, but she was into it and that I guess is how sparks lie.
I would have been one of those people who was like, don’t splash me, I’m not into that, but she felt differently and look where they are now.
When they met, both of them had lost their first spouse a few years earlier and neither of them wanted to get married again, planned on getting married again, but the heart wants what it wants. You can’t predict these things.
So two years after their first date, they got married in swimsuits and water shoes and t-shirts. He wore a tuxedo tee, which I always love. She wore a white t-shirt, a little bit scandalous, if you ask me.
When I worked at the YMCA, wearing a t-shirt in the pool was not allowed, but I guess that the rules are meant to be broken.
There’s so much that I love about this story as a remarried widow myself, but beyond just the reminder that you can find love at any point, in any place, at any age. I love that a lifeguard made decorations out of pool noodles.
I love that they laminated their vows, which is so practical. I love that he dove underwater to get the garter.
I love that their friends made a little dance circle for them in the water, and I love that the next day, they were back at water aerobics.
We’ll have a link to this article, and really any article or video that we talk about in this episode, we’ll have it linked in the episode description, so you can see it, you can read it as well. Okay, next up, I’m not a fan of billionaires.
I’m not a fan of billionaires, and I’ve also noticed that whenever somebody wants to argue, like there are no ethical billionaires, someone else wants to argue about why their favorite billionaire is actually totally okay and totally great, they
worked for it, blah, blah, blah. It’s such a weird behavior to me because you truly have a better chance of living on the street than you do of becoming a billionaire.
But again, before I go on a rant that is the opposite of It’s Going To Be OK, because my default setting is actually everything is terrible. Oh my God.
I’m here to say that somebody found an article that indicates that they actually might have found an ethical billionaire. And by that I mean found an article about him. His name is Edwin Castro.
He won over $2 billion in the Powerball lottery. He bought that Powerball ticket in Altadena, which is one of the areas that was fully decimated last year in the LA wildfires. And he lived part of his childhood there.
He lived part of his adulthood in Altadena. And one thing that is happening all over the US is investment firms buying up property, buying up houses and driving up prices. And this guy bought 15 lots.
He’s developing them. He is committed to selling them to people and committed to maintaining the community and helping rebuild the community, not selling to investors who will flip them or rent them out.
And it sounds like he’s really trying to help save that neighborhood. And I think that’s really sweet. And yes, he’s going to make some money on it.
But I also think having that commitment to selling them at, you know, what he says is like a reasonable market rate out of my budget, but still. Instead of to just the highest corporate bidder is really good, is good. We need that.
We need that. All right. This one is mine.
And I’m trying to think of how to explain why I love it so much. But I think I’ll just jump right into it, which is, you know, sometimes something crosses your algorithm and you think, wow, OK. Yeah, never really thought about this.
This is one of those things. Her name is Janie Grayling, possibly pronounced growling, but I would pronounce it Grayling, G-R-O-E-L-I-N-G, is she’s a hermit crab influencer. It she’s a hermit crab influencer.
She is a human girl. I should say she’s a human girl who has built an Instagram account about hermit crabs, specifically about saving them from us. As usual, we are the problem.
People are the problem. If you grew up in the 90s, hermit crabs were often prizes. They were considered kind of like cheap.
I hate to say, you know, like they’re like they were, they were prizes at fairs. They were kind of like considered a starter pet.
They came in like little plastic cages, much like hamsters did, OK, which I am not a hamster influencer, but I definitely could be whenever people say, oh, no, hamsters are mean or hamsters stink. No, we just weren’t taking care of them correctly.
And it turns out, you know, same thing with hermit crabs, same thing with hermit crabs. The hermit crabs that I had as a kid, I did buy at a pet store that sold like fish and crustaceans, I guess.
I think it was on Blooming, Diamond Lake Road in Bloomington. If you remember it, that place, Aqua City, I think it was called, in Minneapolis. Shout out, if you remember what this place was called.
They sold a lot of fish, but I think I got my hermit crabs there. They didn’t live very long, and I was kind of told like, oh yeah, like that’s it, that they just don’t live very long. But then I saw this video.
Yeah, so I hate to tell you this, but that hermit crab you got as a kid should have lived around 50 years.
Five zero, five decades, hermit crabs can live 50 years. Now, of course, this is hermit crabs that live in the wild, and they can live decades and decades in captivity too, but that comes down to proper care.
It’s a shame because hermit crabs were so widely marketed as beginner pets for kids, and you hear all the stories like, oh yeah, I had hermit crabs when I was little, but they lasted a few weeks, maybe, maybe a few months.
Or sometimes that friend that had hermit crabs for a few years, and it was like crazy that they lasted even just a few years. But it’s sad because that should not be the case. Hermit crabs can live decades and decades.
Just like betta fish, hermit crabs are one of the most abused animals in the pet industry.
The way that they are taken from the wild and the industry that they endure and get through to go from point A to point B is just, it’s absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking.
Just for them to be incorrectly marketed and like looked at as beach souvenirs or prizes from a fair. Like these are living creatures. I can live decades.
They’re tropical and exotic animals. They are so fun and amazing creatures with unique personalities. I love them.
My whole page is about hermit crabs because I just think they need a voice. They need a platform. So that’s why I’m here.
Let’s change the stigma that hermit crabs don’t last long and they’re just easy pets because that’s not the case.
So, yeah, there’s a lot of problems in this world, but I am always so heartened by people who find one thing, commit to it and are like, this is the one way that I can make the world better. And for this girl, it’s hermit crabs.
And I love that because now I care more about hermit crabs. And now I think hermit crabs should not be prizes. And now I think hermit crabs deserve respect.
And now I feel very bad that my hermit crab is not still alive because it should be. OK, this is a very sweet one. And we’ll see if I can talk about it without crying.
It says, a firefighter who longed to be a dad found a newborn abandoned at his firehouse. So, Chris Martinez is a firefighter in New Mexico. He discovers a newborn baby in the station’s Safe Haven baby box.
This is a place connected to a fire station where people can surrender a baby with no questions asked. And this baby was brand new, like still had the umbilical cord, was tiny, was shivering, had hypothermia, needed to go to the hospital.
This firefighter finds this baby, you know, saves his life, brings him to the hospital. But there’s more. This firefighter and his wife had just been certified as foster parents after going through years of infertility.
They, you know, he finds this baby, he meets this baby. They become the baby’s foster parents and then they adopt him. And now he’s their son and he’s learning how to walk.
I don’t know, like, the world is just can be such a beautiful, can just be such a beautiful, beautiful place. All right, we’re going to take a break here. And then when we come back, we have more of Your OK Thing.
So when we say It’s Going To Be OK is a group project, we have always, always wanted your OK things. You can call them in, you can text them in, you can email them.
The phone number will always be in our description, but it’s 502-388-OKAY, which is 6529. 502-388-OKAY. I’m starting out with something that was maybe a submission, but it was marked as spam.
And if it is spam, I want to get spam texts like this. I really do. It says, we don’t contact you much, but I always care about you.
I haven’t replied. It says potential spam. But you know what?
I like to think that this is just a person who doesn’t contact me much, but always cares about me, or is also a person who maybe just got the phone number one digit off for the person that they were trying to contact, the person that they were trying
to tell that they care about, even if they don’t talk very often. And that’s how I feel about a lot of people. You know, we don’t talk much. I don’t contact you much, but I always care about you.
And so whoever this is, thank you. Thank you. I saved this as a screenshot so that I could have it forever.
Also, maybe potentially spam, I got this voicemail.
Hi.
I’m a gay man that drives a Tesla.
Just putting that out there.
I forgot what I was going to say.
I’ll call you back in a few. OK. OK.
Again, don’t know if that was meant for It’s Going To Be OK, if that’s just a general announcement. I’m happy for you. I’m happy for you.
I’m happy for your Tesla. That is great. If you are listening to this and you’re like, I don’t even know what I would submit.
I mean, be inspired by that voicemail. OK. Anything could make you feel OK, even if it’s just the fact that you are gay and drive a Tesla.
OK. OK. I love this one.
I love this one. If you listen to Thanks For Asking, you might know that on New Year’s Eve every year, I hold an awards night for my family.
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We do it early in the evening. Obviously, people want to like, you know, some some of our children are older and they they might want to go out for New Year’s Eve. But early in the evening, we have like an award ceremony.
We do we do a few little rituals, but that is one of them. And, you know, like I do a PowerPoint. There are actual physical awards.
We celebrate something that a person might not see or celebrate in themselves. It’s one of my favorite things that we do as a family, because I really do love celebrating.
And I think that we need to celebrate more, celebrate the small things in the face of so much uncertainty, so much stress, so many horrors we need to celebrate. And that is why I love this video.
And I’m so sorry that I have to describe this to you before you hear it. But it’s a group of friends who each take a turn saying what they’re proud of for the past year and then putting a little flag into a cake. I’m assuming later they eat the cake.
My name is Katie and I started grad school.
I’m Holly and I designed 12 Kindle cases this year.
I’m Meg and I finished the first draft of my book and I’m halfway through my first round of events.
My name is Katie, I ran my first and last half marathon.
I’m Amber and I started therapy.
I’m Emily and I had a baby and moved into my first home.
I’m Adeline and I read 75 bucks and became an aunt this year.
I’m Rachel and I’m one year postpartum.
Yeah.
I’m Jessica. I was in the Utah Business Magazine 20 in their 20s. Yeah.
I’m Addy.
I let go of my mom guilt this year and went back to teaching because I wanted to.
Yeah.
I’m Jessie and I ran my first mile without stopping and I learned how to swim without plugging my nose.
I’m Tori and I got pregnant.
See, I love it. You could celebrate anything. You should be proud of yourself for the big things, for the little things.
Everything is worth celebrating. All right. Next, we have this text message.
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Acts of Kindness
It says, I’m in the midst of breast cancer treatment right now, just a couple of years after losing my mom to breast cancer. So, that sucks, but there’s one OK thing bringing me joy right now.
My two and a half year old calling every stranger he encounters, little guy, to their faces. We pass an 85 year old lady power walking with walking poles in both hands. Hi, little guy.
We see a maintenance worker fixing a door at the school around the corner from our house. What are you doing, little guy? We pass by a 20-something college girl going for a jog in neon pink spandex.
Hey, little guy, wait for me. We run into my oncologist at Starbucks. Mommy, who’s that little guy?
Is my son, in fact, littler than all the little guys he encounters in the world? Yes. Does this make it that much more delightful?
You know the answer. PS. I have no idea where he got this phrase from.
I never call him little guy, nor does anyone else in his life. I have… I’m smiling so hard reading this text.
I’ve thought about this nonstop since I read this, and in my head, everybody is little guy. What are you doing, little guy? Just saying to a 20-year-old, like, Hottie, who’s out for a run, like, wait for me, little guy.
It’s so good. It’s so good. It’s so good.
Oh, God. OK, this is also a good one. You know, everybody says it is so hard to meet people, but this guy, really, he took a big swing, and I love when people take a big swing.
Listen to this.
Girl at the bar last night gave me her email. She said, I don’t have Instagram, but you can have my email. I said, perfect.
She thinks I won’t email her. So I emailed her. When I got home from the bar, I said, Hey, Julie, thanks for giving me your email.
I enjoyed dancing with you last week and tonight. Attached is a pitch deck. The Julie Friendship Pitch Deck dot PDF dot PDF first page.
Hi, Julie. You probably thought I wouldn’t email you. Joke’s on you.
I wrote you a pitch deck. The purpose of this pitch deck is to tell you I like dancing with you and to convince you to be my friend. Pictured is us dancing.
Look how happy you are. Reasons you should be my friend. Reason number one, I wrote you a pitch deck.
Reason number two, I’m pretty good at dancing. You like dancing. Reason number three, I don’t let people crash into you on the dance floor.
This is actually really annoying when people do that. Reason number four, I have great music taste. Ask me to send you a playlist.
Call to action is very key. Reason number five, I’m very new to dancing, but I’m determined to learn new styles. So this is like investing in early stock.
Your dance partner will only get better. I’m currently learning merengue, waltz and two step. Reason number six, I think you’re cool.
And I’m picky. Fun facts about me. I’m from California.
I moved here in June. I take pictures of cowboys. My favorite type of music is country waltz and I’m currently reading Lonesome Dove.
Things I want to know about you, gentlemen, it’s impolite to only talk about yourself. You got to ask her some questions. When did you start learning to dance?
What style did you start with? Are you from Utah? My guess is no, because she just she gives that vibe.
Do you think I’m cool? Do you want to be my friend? Did you tell the truth on question number four?
I actually have a lot more questions, but only ask them if you accept my proposal. I am a tough negotiator. Thank you for your time, Julie.
Kindest regards, Seth.
Now, I don’t know how that ended for them. If somebody did that for me, I would be their friend. I would be their best friend.
I would probably marry them. I mean, I married people who didn’t do that for me. So just imagine what I would do if somebody texted me a PowerPoint after dancing with me once at a bar.
I’d give them my identity if they asked for it. A kidney, whatever they need. All right, we got a text.
My name is Debbie, and it’s going to be OK. My first husband died while traveling out of state on a business trip. I was completely overwhelmed when he passed, having three grieving school-age children at home.
My brother-in-law offered to travel out of state to bring my husband’s remains back home. I was grateful for my brother-in-law traveling out of state while I handled funeral details and figuring out next steps as a widow and a grieving solo parent.
I had never thought about traveling to the location of my husband’s death. But 12 years after Steve passed, I had a work meeting in the area. A friend who was local to that area and I set out to find where Steve had died.
I had the intersection description from a newspaper article along with GPS coordinates from the accident report. My friend and I arrived in the general area, but we were unsure if we had found the right area.
We stopped in a driveway and my friend talked to the homeowner outside his house. The homeowner expressed his condolences to me as he was home 12 years ago and my husband had died in the accident.
The homeowner said he would take us to the crash location, and the three of us traveled up the road to a snowmobile path. The guide said he wasn’t sure of the location but that we were close.
As we traveled up the path, the guide said he wasn’t quite sure of the location, but that we were close to where my husband had died. The guide, my friend and I walked around a little, and very quickly my friend pointed to a cross in the woods.
We all went towards the cross, and in the woods, off of a snowmobile path, someone had carved a memorial cross for my husband.
I brought flowers to lay in the area where my husband had died, and the carved cross with my husband’s name on it had rope attached to it so I could tie my flowers to the cross.
I have no idea who so lovingly carved a cross to honor my husband and placed it in the woods at the crash location.
I know it’s going to be OK because there are caring people who took the time to honor my husband who died out of state in the woods just off of a snowmobile path. Thank you to all the people who cared for my family as we grieved.
I was not ready for that one. That is really beautiful, that is so wonderful, and so much more than OK. Like, what a beautiful, beautiful thing to do for a stranger who didn’t even know that it was there for 12 years.
It’s really beautiful. Debbie, thank you so much for sharing that with us, and thank you to whoever did that, whoever does those kinds of things. Like, whoo.
Do you feel a little bit more OK? I feel a little bit more OK. I’m going to leave you with this one.
This is a really, really good share. This is from a man named Hype Man Brandon on TikTok. This is everything that I want all of you to carry into the new year.
And again, we’ll have this linked in the episode description in case you want to save it, you want to download it, you want to keep it.
I don’t know who need to hit this, and I don’t know, like, if you care to hit this, but I just wanted to let you know that you’re doing great. You’re doing good, bro. You’re going to work every day.
You’re working on your goals every day when you get off work. You’re in the gym. You’re doing great, bro.
You’re paying your bills. You’re responsible. You’re taking care of everything and everybody that you need to take care of, including yourself.
You’re doing good. I don’t see why you always tend to get on social media, scroll a couple of times, seeing an 18 year old on your yacht and thinking that’s normal. Like that’s not normal, fam.
And like everybody don’t do that. Everybody don’t take a hundred trips a year, fam. Everybody don’t do that.
Some people got beautiful lives, just like you not saying that their lives ain’t beautiful. But some people have beautiful lives, just like you have.
You go out sometimes with your friends, your family, your girl or your man, depending on who you are. You go to work every day, you got vacation time, you got benefits. You got a fucking phone that you can use, that you can reach out to people to.
You know, you can fly on a plane once or twice a year, probably go on a cruise. Bills paid up. Don’t never got to worry about that.
You can go to the store and get a drink if you want to. Get a little soda, get a bottle of water if you want to. Like, you’re doing good.
Amazing. It’s like… So stop thinking that you’re not.
I get it. I get it. You know, you want better for yourself and shit like that.
I get that. And that’s an amazing mindset to have, right? But man, you get to wake up every day, go to work, get paid, get in your car that you bought yourself.
Like, you know, I mean, from the looks of it, you’re doing good. Amazingly. I love you.
All right, those are our OK things for right now.
We’re working on more episodes, we’re working on more episodes, so tell a friend, tell a friend to tell a friend, rate it, review it, like it, share it.
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And this is, like I said, this is a group project. You can call us, you can text us, you can email us your OK things. This can be anything.
Anything that makes you feel like it’s going to be OK. The number is 502-388-OKAY. The numbers are, those last four numbers are 6529.
Again, those will be in our episode description. Or IGTBO at feelingsand.co. I’m Nora McInerny.
This is It’s Going To Be OK. This episode was produced by Marcel Malekibu. Our theme music is by Secret Audio.
They have a new album out that will also be linked in our episode description. It’s called Ticonderoga. You may or may not hear my voice on one of the songs, but other than that, it’s a great album.
Again, linked in our episode description for Spotify and Apple. Grace Berry, Grace Berry is everything to this team. She does everything that Marcel and I cannot or will not do.
So thank you so much to Grace as well. Thank you to everybody who sent in your OK things, every article, every video that we talk about is linked in our episode description. And we will see you back here again soon.
You’ve seen the headlines. You’ve looked at the world. You know, like we do, that not everything is going to be OK. But to start 2026, we’re going to look at some of the things that make us feel like something will be OK. If you need a sign that there is still good in the world, let this be it.
About It's Going to Be OK
If you have anxiety, depression or any sense of the world around you, you know that not *everything* is going to be okay. In fact, many things aren’t okay and never will be!
But instead of falling into the pit of despair, we’re bringing you a little OK for your day. Every weekday, we’ll bring you one okay thing to help you start, end or endure your day with the opposite of a doom scroll.
Find Nora’s weekly here. Also, check out Nora on YouTube.
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I’m Nora McInerny, and It’s Going To Be OK. Please notice, I did not say everything is going to be OK. I didn’t say everything is going to be OK because I don’t know that it will be.
I don’t believe that everything will be OK. Not everything. No, no, no, no.
Some things, some things, definitely not everything. You’ve seen the headlines. You’ve looked at the world.
We could all list numerous things that are not OK, will not be OK, would never in a million years be OK. But, but, but, but. We also know, I know personally, that even in the darkest moments, even when things feel hopeless, there is always hope.
There is always some point of light in the dark, and that is what this show is. This show is your reminder that not everything is terrible. It is not a denial of the terrible things that exist in this world.
We are here to say that the world is not 100% terrible. We are here to put some OK in your day. Now, this show used to be a 5 to 10 minute daily show.
It is no longer that. These are longer episodes. It’s no longer that.
These are longer episodes now. I hope you like them. I got three text messages to our phone number saying that you were into it, and that was enough for me to say, OK, let’s keep going.
So today, in the world of OK things, we’ve got a lot to share with you. We have a widow wedding. We have potentially a good billionaire.
We have a possible spam message that still touched my soul deeply. We have a PowerPoint. We have a pep talk.
We have so much more. So let’s get into it. If you are going to have a show called It’s Going To Be OK and you are going to encourage people to find OK things in their day, you better be looking for the OK things in yours.
So I’m going to get started with a few examples of the OK things, actually pretty good things, if I’m going to brag from my own life. This year is still new. I’m recording this on January 5th.
So we’re talking a little bit about last year, but also about this year. OK, first off, my mom came down from Minneapolis to Phoenix, Arizona, and spent Christmas and New Year’s with us, which was so wonderful. She was here for 10 days.
I think a lot of people would hear that and think that is not for them. That is so for me. I love having guests.
I love having my mother as a guest specifically. She is still my mom, right? But as a kid, she was like the kind of mom who just, she did make things magical.
She did make things fun. Nothing was predictable, but I always knew that my mom would find some way for us to have a little bit of an adventure. She just brings that spirit to any room that she’s in, and she brings that to my kids as well.
They love being around her. My nine-year-old willingly and excitedly gave up his room for 10 days so that she could have some privacy, have a room to stay in. We do not have a guest room.
Our house is simply not that big. And he would have given it up permanently, given the option. He didn’t have that option.
She has a life that she had to get back to. But he was like, no, please stay. Please stay.
And he made her a little welcome sign. And it was very sweet. I really loved that.
Also over break, our older son, our oldest son, is 24 years old. He has his own apartment, and he invited our youngest son, again, who is nine years old, to spend the night with him.
And if you’ve ever had an older sibling, like a significantly older sibling or cousin or somebody who was not a celebrity, but felt like a celebrity to you, you know the significance of like this kind of sleepover.
My sister is eight years older than me. And when she moved out and got her own apartment and I would be invited to stay with her, it was to me better than Disneyland, which I had never been to Disneyland.
But having been there at age 40, I can confidently say staying at my sister’s itsy bitsy apartment in uptown Minneapolis was better than Disneyland, probably more fun than I would have had even going to Disney in the 90s.
But it was very, I just love that. That he invited his brother, and I love that his little brother wanted to go, and that he truly had the time of his life. He woke up the day that he was supposed to sleep over.
He woke up at 5:30 a.m. and packed a bag. I had to say, your brother’s not awake yet.
I don’t think he was going to pick you up for the sleepover at 5:30 a.m. or 6.30 or 7.30 or 8.30. I don’t think he was picking you up in the a.m., buddy.
I don’t think he’s going to. Trying to get back into kind of like the swing of things after a break can be a little bit tough, but part of my routine is that I stop at the fancy grocery store, usually on my way to work.
Sometimes I might take a midday break. I get every day an Arnold Palmer.
There’s been a few days where it’s been a little bit too chilly for me to have one, but they’ve got that soft pebble ice at the fancy grocery store, and if you use their reusable cup, which costs $60 American dollars, I know.
It’s a Yeti, so it’s I think just a markup of like $30. Then this is considered a refill that only costs $1. Now, I go every day, so I do believe that this has paid for itself, but I am truly unable to do that math.
Anyways, because I brought my reusable mug on my first day back to work trying to get into the swing of things, brought this reusable mug, went to the grocery store, order my Arnold Palmer. It’s only $1.
And I don’t want to use a card for $1, so I’m digging through my bag. I’m trying to scrounge up 100 cents. All my coins are sticky.
I don’t know why, but they were. And I’m juggling a lot of stuff. It’s my turn to pay.
I feel a tap on my shoulder, and it’s an elderly man. And he said, let me get this one for you. And I don’t know if he just felt bad for me that I was struggling to come up with a dollar and change.
I don’t care. It was so nice of him. And we’re barely into this year, and a little act of kindness really does go a long way.
And that’s such a reminder. He just made my day for it. It only cost him a dollar.
I almost said it didn’t cost him anything. It did. It cost him a dollar.
And that includes tax. So truly $1 flat rate to make my day. Also, over the course of, over the past few months, I discovered a new favorite writer, a new favorite writer of mine.
I read Heart the Lover, I believe in November, by Lilly King, Heart the Lover. I wrote about it in my monthly book roundup. And I was just so enamored with the way that this woman writes and the way that she builds a world.
And I discovered that she has written several books. And I have been on a full binge of her entire backlist. I have read them on the Libby app.
I have found, you know, like physical copies. And it’s hard for me, because I want to savor these stories. And I also just like can’t get enough of them.
And I do find myself like reading them like really quickly. But I am, I’m like, I’m absorbing it. I’m digesting it.
But that’s something that’s really like getting me through to lately, or they’ve just like really enjoyed. It’s kind of gotten me out of like this reading slump and like really looking forward to reading every day.
So right now, I’m reading The Pleasing Hour by Lily King. And it takes place in France. I’m on like chapter three.
It takes place in France. And this girl is, you know, in Au Pair or Ajeune Fille, as they’re called, like a, which I believe means summer girl. I haven’t looked it up.
She’s, or maybe means young girl. I don’t know what it means. I know it means girl, but she’s, you know, she’s a nanny for this family.
They live on a houseboat. And, you know, you know that she left America for a reason. You don’t know the whole backstory yet.
And that’s something that Lily King does so well is, I’m like in this world, even if I don’t like fully understand it, I know it. I’m in it. I’m immersed in it.
And again, finding a new writer that you love and like getting really, really, really, really into all their work is so great. It’s like one of my favorite things.
And another one of my favorite things, one of my OK-est things, I just realized this today is I am wearing this sweater, this beautiful cashmere sweater, Navy blue, and it’s monogrammed with a DQM. Those are not my initials.
Those are my uncle’s initials. He died in December. I got to go to Wisconsin for the funeral and see my family.
And I know you’re thinking like the show’s called It’s Going To Be OK, feels like it should be uplifting. Why are we talking about a funeral? Baby, I love a funeral, OK?
Nothing is more life-affirming to me than death, a funeral, like it’s just truly some of my favorite social gatherings. And I believe that’s the Catholic in me speaking. But I bought this sweater as a gift for my uncle.
He was 89 when he died, a philosopher. And, you know, I never like lived like a real like ascetic lifestyle. Maybe it’s pronounced ascetic.
I don’t know. Just very, very, very simple life. And I bought him this sweater so that he would have, you know, something cozy and beautiful.
And he wrote me like the nicest thank you note when I sent it to him a few Christmases ago. And when we went to go clean out his apartment, I found it. And I thought, I’ll wear that, I’ll wear that and remember him.
And I’m wearing it today. It’s very rare this winter in Phoenix that it gets cold enough to actually wear a sweater. I won’t go again.
We’re going to keep it. It’s going to be OK. Not Nora has a spiral about climate change, but they’re just things, right?
But to have things that belong to somebody that you loved is like a way of like keeping them close and something that I really like. Those are some of my OK things. I do write them down when they happen to me.
I have a note on my notes app. I’ve got a little notebook, but this podcast is and always has been a group project. So we’re going to stop talking about my OK things and we are going to talk about your OK things.
The things that you found out in the world, sent to me and said, this makes me feel like it is going to be OK.
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Inspiring Community Stories
All right, first up, we have a new story that I would call The Bride Wore White Water Shoes.
This one is for the widows, the widowers, anyone who believes that they are not going to find love because maybe it’s too late for them, have I got news for you.
So imagine swimming laps at the YMCA and then finding out that you are crashing a wedding. These two elderly people, Marlene Parsons and Edward LaRue Senior, didn’t walk down the aisle for their second wedding.
They walked out of the locker room of the YMCA and they said, I do in the same place where they fell in love, which is the YMCA swimming pool where they met during water aerobics.
Their origin story is that he was splashing people, which a lot of their classmates didn’t think was funny, but she was into it and that I guess is how sparks lie.
I would have been one of those people who was like, don’t splash me, I’m not into that, but she felt differently and look where they are now.
When they met, both of them had lost their first spouse a few years earlier and neither of them wanted to get married again, planned on getting married again, but the heart wants what it wants. You can’t predict these things.
So two years after their first date, they got married in swimsuits and water shoes and t-shirts. He wore a tuxedo tee, which I always love. She wore a white t-shirt, a little bit scandalous, if you ask me.
When I worked at the YMCA, wearing a t-shirt in the pool was not allowed, but I guess that the rules are meant to be broken.
There’s so much that I love about this story as a remarried widow myself, but beyond just the reminder that you can find love at any point, in any place, at any age. I love that a lifeguard made decorations out of pool noodles.
I love that they laminated their vows, which is so practical. I love that he dove underwater to get the garter.
I love that their friends made a little dance circle for them in the water, and I love that the next day, they were back at water aerobics.
We’ll have a link to this article, and really any article or video that we talk about in this episode, we’ll have it linked in the episode description, so you can see it, you can read it as well. Okay, next up, I’m not a fan of billionaires.
I’m not a fan of billionaires, and I’ve also noticed that whenever somebody wants to argue, like there are no ethical billionaires, someone else wants to argue about why their favorite billionaire is actually totally okay and totally great, they
worked for it, blah, blah, blah. It’s such a weird behavior to me because you truly have a better chance of living on the street than you do of becoming a billionaire.
But again, before I go on a rant that is the opposite of It’s Going To Be OK, because my default setting is actually everything is terrible. Oh my God.
I’m here to say that somebody found an article that indicates that they actually might have found an ethical billionaire. And by that I mean found an article about him. His name is Edwin Castro.
He won over $2 billion in the Powerball lottery. He bought that Powerball ticket in Altadena, which is one of the areas that was fully decimated last year in the LA wildfires. And he lived part of his childhood there.
He lived part of his adulthood in Altadena. And one thing that is happening all over the US is investment firms buying up property, buying up houses and driving up prices. And this guy bought 15 lots.
He’s developing them. He is committed to selling them to people and committed to maintaining the community and helping rebuild the community, not selling to investors who will flip them or rent them out.
And it sounds like he’s really trying to help save that neighborhood. And I think that’s really sweet. And yes, he’s going to make some money on it.
But I also think having that commitment to selling them at, you know, what he says is like a reasonable market rate out of my budget, but still. Instead of to just the highest corporate bidder is really good, is good. We need that.
We need that. All right. This one is mine.
And I’m trying to think of how to explain why I love it so much. But I think I’ll just jump right into it, which is, you know, sometimes something crosses your algorithm and you think, wow, OK. Yeah, never really thought about this.
This is one of those things. Her name is Janie Grayling, possibly pronounced growling, but I would pronounce it Grayling, G-R-O-E-L-I-N-G, is she’s a hermit crab influencer. It she’s a hermit crab influencer.
She is a human girl. I should say she’s a human girl who has built an Instagram account about hermit crabs, specifically about saving them from us. As usual, we are the problem.
People are the problem. If you grew up in the 90s, hermit crabs were often prizes. They were considered kind of like cheap.
I hate to say, you know, like they’re like they were, they were prizes at fairs. They were kind of like considered a starter pet.
They came in like little plastic cages, much like hamsters did, OK, which I am not a hamster influencer, but I definitely could be whenever people say, oh, no, hamsters are mean or hamsters stink. No, we just weren’t taking care of them correctly.
And it turns out, you know, same thing with hermit crabs, same thing with hermit crabs. The hermit crabs that I had as a kid, I did buy at a pet store that sold like fish and crustaceans, I guess.
I think it was on Blooming, Diamond Lake Road in Bloomington. If you remember it, that place, Aqua City, I think it was called, in Minneapolis. Shout out, if you remember what this place was called.
They sold a lot of fish, but I think I got my hermit crabs there. They didn’t live very long, and I was kind of told like, oh yeah, like that’s it, that they just don’t live very long. But then I saw this video.
Yeah, so I hate to tell you this, but that hermit crab you got as a kid should have lived around 50 years.
Five zero, five decades, hermit crabs can live 50 years. Now, of course, this is hermit crabs that live in the wild, and they can live decades and decades in captivity too, but that comes down to proper care.
It’s a shame because hermit crabs were so widely marketed as beginner pets for kids, and you hear all the stories like, oh yeah, I had hermit crabs when I was little, but they lasted a few weeks, maybe, maybe a few months.
Or sometimes that friend that had hermit crabs for a few years, and it was like crazy that they lasted even just a few years. But it’s sad because that should not be the case. Hermit crabs can live decades and decades.
Just like betta fish, hermit crabs are one of the most abused animals in the pet industry.
The way that they are taken from the wild and the industry that they endure and get through to go from point A to point B is just, it’s absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking.
Just for them to be incorrectly marketed and like looked at as beach souvenirs or prizes from a fair. Like these are living creatures. I can live decades.
They’re tropical and exotic animals. They are so fun and amazing creatures with unique personalities. I love them.
My whole page is about hermit crabs because I just think they need a voice. They need a platform. So that’s why I’m here.
Let’s change the stigma that hermit crabs don’t last long and they’re just easy pets because that’s not the case.
So, yeah, there’s a lot of problems in this world, but I am always so heartened by people who find one thing, commit to it and are like, this is the one way that I can make the world better. And for this girl, it’s hermit crabs.
And I love that because now I care more about hermit crabs. And now I think hermit crabs should not be prizes. And now I think hermit crabs deserve respect.
And now I feel very bad that my hermit crab is not still alive because it should be. OK, this is a very sweet one. And we’ll see if I can talk about it without crying.
It says, a firefighter who longed to be a dad found a newborn abandoned at his firehouse. So, Chris Martinez is a firefighter in New Mexico. He discovers a newborn baby in the station’s Safe Haven baby box.
This is a place connected to a fire station where people can surrender a baby with no questions asked. And this baby was brand new, like still had the umbilical cord, was tiny, was shivering, had hypothermia, needed to go to the hospital.
This firefighter finds this baby, you know, saves his life, brings him to the hospital. But there’s more. This firefighter and his wife had just been certified as foster parents after going through years of infertility.
They, you know, he finds this baby, he meets this baby. They become the baby’s foster parents and then they adopt him. And now he’s their son and he’s learning how to walk.
I don’t know, like, the world is just can be such a beautiful, can just be such a beautiful, beautiful place. All right, we’re going to take a break here. And then when we come back, we have more of Your OK Thing.
So when we say It’s Going To Be OK is a group project, we have always, always wanted your OK things. You can call them in, you can text them in, you can email them.
The phone number will always be in our description, but it’s 502-388-OKAY, which is 6529. 502-388-OKAY. I’m starting out with something that was maybe a submission, but it was marked as spam.
And if it is spam, I want to get spam texts like this. I really do. It says, we don’t contact you much, but I always care about you.
I haven’t replied. It says potential spam. But you know what?
I like to think that this is just a person who doesn’t contact me much, but always cares about me, or is also a person who maybe just got the phone number one digit off for the person that they were trying to contact, the person that they were trying
to tell that they care about, even if they don’t talk very often. And that’s how I feel about a lot of people. You know, we don’t talk much. I don’t contact you much, but I always care about you.
And so whoever this is, thank you. Thank you. I saved this as a screenshot so that I could have it forever.
Also, maybe potentially spam, I got this voicemail.
Hi.
I’m a gay man that drives a Tesla.
Just putting that out there.
I forgot what I was going to say.
I’ll call you back in a few. OK. OK.
Again, don’t know if that was meant for It’s Going To Be OK, if that’s just a general announcement. I’m happy for you. I’m happy for you.
I’m happy for your Tesla. That is great. If you are listening to this and you’re like, I don’t even know what I would submit.
I mean, be inspired by that voicemail. OK. Anything could make you feel OK, even if it’s just the fact that you are gay and drive a Tesla.
OK. OK. I love this one.
I love this one. If you listen to Thanks For Asking, you might know that on New Year’s Eve every year, I hold an awards night for my family.
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We do it early in the evening. Obviously, people want to like, you know, some some of our children are older and they they might want to go out for New Year’s Eve. But early in the evening, we have like an award ceremony.
We do we do a few little rituals, but that is one of them. And, you know, like I do a PowerPoint. There are actual physical awards.
We celebrate something that a person might not see or celebrate in themselves. It’s one of my favorite things that we do as a family, because I really do love celebrating.
And I think that we need to celebrate more, celebrate the small things in the face of so much uncertainty, so much stress, so many horrors we need to celebrate. And that is why I love this video.
And I’m so sorry that I have to describe this to you before you hear it. But it’s a group of friends who each take a turn saying what they’re proud of for the past year and then putting a little flag into a cake. I’m assuming later they eat the cake.
My name is Katie and I started grad school.
I’m Holly and I designed 12 Kindle cases this year.
I’m Meg and I finished the first draft of my book and I’m halfway through my first round of events.
My name is Katie, I ran my first and last half marathon.
I’m Amber and I started therapy.
I’m Emily and I had a baby and moved into my first home.
I’m Adeline and I read 75 bucks and became an aunt this year.
I’m Rachel and I’m one year postpartum.
Yeah.
I’m Jessica. I was in the Utah Business Magazine 20 in their 20s. Yeah.
I’m Addy.
I let go of my mom guilt this year and went back to teaching because I wanted to.
Yeah.
I’m Jessie and I ran my first mile without stopping and I learned how to swim without plugging my nose.
I’m Tori and I got pregnant.
See, I love it. You could celebrate anything. You should be proud of yourself for the big things, for the little things.
Everything is worth celebrating. All right. Next, we have this text message.
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Acts of Kindness
It says, I’m in the midst of breast cancer treatment right now, just a couple of years after losing my mom to breast cancer. So, that sucks, but there’s one OK thing bringing me joy right now.
My two and a half year old calling every stranger he encounters, little guy, to their faces. We pass an 85 year old lady power walking with walking poles in both hands. Hi, little guy.
We see a maintenance worker fixing a door at the school around the corner from our house. What are you doing, little guy? We pass by a 20-something college girl going for a jog in neon pink spandex.
Hey, little guy, wait for me. We run into my oncologist at Starbucks. Mommy, who’s that little guy?
Is my son, in fact, littler than all the little guys he encounters in the world? Yes. Does this make it that much more delightful?
You know the answer. PS. I have no idea where he got this phrase from.
I never call him little guy, nor does anyone else in his life. I have… I’m smiling so hard reading this text.
I’ve thought about this nonstop since I read this, and in my head, everybody is little guy. What are you doing, little guy? Just saying to a 20-year-old, like, Hottie, who’s out for a run, like, wait for me, little guy.
It’s so good. It’s so good. It’s so good.
Oh, God. OK, this is also a good one. You know, everybody says it is so hard to meet people, but this guy, really, he took a big swing, and I love when people take a big swing.
Listen to this.
Girl at the bar last night gave me her email. She said, I don’t have Instagram, but you can have my email. I said, perfect.
She thinks I won’t email her. So I emailed her. When I got home from the bar, I said, Hey, Julie, thanks for giving me your email.
I enjoyed dancing with you last week and tonight. Attached is a pitch deck. The Julie Friendship Pitch Deck dot PDF dot PDF first page.
Hi, Julie. You probably thought I wouldn’t email you. Joke’s on you.
I wrote you a pitch deck. The purpose of this pitch deck is to tell you I like dancing with you and to convince you to be my friend. Pictured is us dancing.
Look how happy you are. Reasons you should be my friend. Reason number one, I wrote you a pitch deck.
Reason number two, I’m pretty good at dancing. You like dancing. Reason number three, I don’t let people crash into you on the dance floor.
This is actually really annoying when people do that. Reason number four, I have great music taste. Ask me to send you a playlist.
Call to action is very key. Reason number five, I’m very new to dancing, but I’m determined to learn new styles. So this is like investing in early stock.
Your dance partner will only get better. I’m currently learning merengue, waltz and two step. Reason number six, I think you’re cool.
And I’m picky. Fun facts about me. I’m from California.
I moved here in June. I take pictures of cowboys. My favorite type of music is country waltz and I’m currently reading Lonesome Dove.
Things I want to know about you, gentlemen, it’s impolite to only talk about yourself. You got to ask her some questions. When did you start learning to dance?
What style did you start with? Are you from Utah? My guess is no, because she just she gives that vibe.
Do you think I’m cool? Do you want to be my friend? Did you tell the truth on question number four?
I actually have a lot more questions, but only ask them if you accept my proposal. I am a tough negotiator. Thank you for your time, Julie.
Kindest regards, Seth.
Now, I don’t know how that ended for them. If somebody did that for me, I would be their friend. I would be their best friend.
I would probably marry them. I mean, I married people who didn’t do that for me. So just imagine what I would do if somebody texted me a PowerPoint after dancing with me once at a bar.
I’d give them my identity if they asked for it. A kidney, whatever they need. All right, we got a text.
My name is Debbie, and it’s going to be OK. My first husband died while traveling out of state on a business trip. I was completely overwhelmed when he passed, having three grieving school-age children at home.
My brother-in-law offered to travel out of state to bring my husband’s remains back home. I was grateful for my brother-in-law traveling out of state while I handled funeral details and figuring out next steps as a widow and a grieving solo parent.
I had never thought about traveling to the location of my husband’s death. But 12 years after Steve passed, I had a work meeting in the area. A friend who was local to that area and I set out to find where Steve had died.
I had the intersection description from a newspaper article along with GPS coordinates from the accident report. My friend and I arrived in the general area, but we were unsure if we had found the right area.
We stopped in a driveway and my friend talked to the homeowner outside his house. The homeowner expressed his condolences to me as he was home 12 years ago and my husband had died in the accident.
The homeowner said he would take us to the crash location, and the three of us traveled up the road to a snowmobile path. The guide said he wasn’t sure of the location but that we were close.
As we traveled up the path, the guide said he wasn’t quite sure of the location, but that we were close to where my husband had died. The guide, my friend and I walked around a little, and very quickly my friend pointed to a cross in the woods.
We all went towards the cross, and in the woods, off of a snowmobile path, someone had carved a memorial cross for my husband.
I brought flowers to lay in the area where my husband had died, and the carved cross with my husband’s name on it had rope attached to it so I could tie my flowers to the cross.
I have no idea who so lovingly carved a cross to honor my husband and placed it in the woods at the crash location.
I know it’s going to be OK because there are caring people who took the time to honor my husband who died out of state in the woods just off of a snowmobile path. Thank you to all the people who cared for my family as we grieved.
I was not ready for that one. That is really beautiful, that is so wonderful, and so much more than OK. Like, what a beautiful, beautiful thing to do for a stranger who didn’t even know that it was there for 12 years.
It’s really beautiful. Debbie, thank you so much for sharing that with us, and thank you to whoever did that, whoever does those kinds of things. Like, whoo.
Do you feel a little bit more OK? I feel a little bit more OK. I’m going to leave you with this one.
This is a really, really good share. This is from a man named Hype Man Brandon on TikTok. This is everything that I want all of you to carry into the new year.
And again, we’ll have this linked in the episode description in case you want to save it, you want to download it, you want to keep it.
I don’t know who need to hit this, and I don’t know, like, if you care to hit this, but I just wanted to let you know that you’re doing great. You’re doing good, bro. You’re going to work every day.
You’re working on your goals every day when you get off work. You’re in the gym. You’re doing great, bro.
You’re paying your bills. You’re responsible. You’re taking care of everything and everybody that you need to take care of, including yourself.
You’re doing good. I don’t see why you always tend to get on social media, scroll a couple of times, seeing an 18 year old on your yacht and thinking that’s normal. Like that’s not normal, fam.
And like everybody don’t do that. Everybody don’t take a hundred trips a year, fam. Everybody don’t do that.
Some people got beautiful lives, just like you not saying that their lives ain’t beautiful. But some people have beautiful lives, just like you have.
You go out sometimes with your friends, your family, your girl or your man, depending on who you are. You go to work every day, you got vacation time, you got benefits. You got a fucking phone that you can use, that you can reach out to people to.
You know, you can fly on a plane once or twice a year, probably go on a cruise. Bills paid up. Don’t never got to worry about that.
You can go to the store and get a drink if you want to. Get a little soda, get a bottle of water if you want to. Like, you’re doing good.
Amazing. It’s like… So stop thinking that you’re not.
I get it. I get it. You know, you want better for yourself and shit like that.
I get that. And that’s an amazing mindset to have, right? But man, you get to wake up every day, go to work, get paid, get in your car that you bought yourself.
Like, you know, I mean, from the looks of it, you’re doing good. Amazingly. I love you.
All right, those are our OK things for right now.
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Anything that makes you feel like it’s going to be OK. The number is 502-388-OKAY. The numbers are, those last four numbers are 6529.
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This is It’s Going To Be OK. This episode was produced by Marcel Malekibu. Our theme music is by Secret Audio.
They have a new album out that will also be linked in our episode description. It’s called Ticonderoga. You may or may not hear my voice on one of the songs, but other than that, it’s a great album.
Again, linked in our episode description for Spotify and Apple. Grace Berry, Grace Berry is everything to this team. She does everything that Marcel and I cannot or will not do.
So thank you so much to Grace as well. Thank you to everybody who sent in your OK things, every article, every video that we talk about is linked in our episode description. And we will see you back here again soon.
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