44. You’ll Be 50 Anyway

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Dr. Edith Eger is a Holocaust survivor and psychologist, and in our opinion, a ray of light. She is one of our all time favorite guests from our other show, Terrible, Thanks for Asking. We wanted to pull some of our favorite quotes from Dr. Eger from that episode so you can have a condensed version of her wisdom and advice to replay whenever you need it.

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If you have anxiety, depression or any sense of the world around you, you know that not *everything* is going to be okay. In fact, many things aren’t okay and never will be!

But instead of falling into the pit of despair, we’re bringing you a little OK for your day. Every weekday, we’ll bring you one okay thing to help you start, end or endure your day with the opposite of a doom scroll.

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Transcripts may not appear in their final version and are subject to change.


I’m Nora McInerny, and it’s going to be okay.

I pulled today’s episode from an interview I did with the psychologist Dr. Edith Eger, a Holocaust survivor who wrote two of my favorite books: The Gift and The Choice. That interview became an episode of “Terrible, Thanks for Asking,” and she shared so many beautiful things that I wanted to put a few of them into a place where you could save and get to them quicker and play them on repeat on days when you need reassurance from a woman who is truly just pure light.

Edith: You know, when I was 40, my supervisor told me to go get a doctorate, but then I said, that’s impossible, I would be 50. I’ll be 50. And he said, you’ll be 50 anyway. So don’t worry about the chronological age, please. It’s your attitude. It’s you. It’s the way you see yourself. And I keep getting younger and younger and younger and more alive. And I’m so grateful to God that not only survived, but able to guide others from victimization to empowerment from darkness to light.

Furthermore, I like walking. I like to walk. And one of my idioms is are you revolving or are you evolving? And that’s why I like butterflies because I like the idea of the metamorphosis. And then you shed the chrysalis. What am I holding on to? And my definition of love is the ability to let go. Not revenge.

Dr Eger: What is the process is, um… Is grief is about going through the stages of grief. I studied with Elizabeth Kubler-Ross to shock the denial and anger. Some people get stuck in the anger. See, when you, when you have anger, chances are you have a lot of other emotions underneath of anger and the biggest one is fear. So anger is not the primary emotion. And you may want to ask yourself, what am I afraid of? So I can put it on the blackboard, anger underneath fear and under there is loss. And the biggest fear of a child is the fear of abandonment. And I tell you, women who approach midlife, 40s, 50s. There is one thing they’re really afraid of. To being with themselves. And if you’re not happy alone, you won’t be happy with anybody else. If someone says I need you, run. Needs are things without which we cannot survive. I need to breathe after four minutes, I’m done. OK, that’s very important. The grieving feeling and healing, you cannot heal what you don’t feel. Crying is good. What comes out to your body doesn’t make you ill. What stays in there does. So share your secrets.

Dr Eger: Just remember, the more you suffered, the stronger you become. You’re a good survivor and you know, you carry good blood. So your ancestors never gave up. And that’s what we are. We carry good blood and we always find the light, no matter how dark it is.

Dr. Edith Eger is a Holocaust survivor and psychologist, and in our opinion, a ray of light. She is one of our all time favorite guests from our other show, Terrible, Thanks for Asking. We wanted to pull some of our favorite quotes from Dr. Eger from that episode so you can have a condensed version of her wisdom and advice to replay whenever you need it.

About It's Going to Be OK

If you have anxiety, depression or any sense of the world around you, you know that not *everything* is going to be okay. In fact, many things aren’t okay and never will be!

But instead of falling into the pit of despair, we’re bringing you a little OK for your day. Every weekday, we’ll bring you one okay thing to help you start, end or endure your day with the opposite of a doom scroll.

Find Nora’s weekly newsletter here! Also, check out Nora on YouTube.

Share your OK thing at 502-388-6529‬ or by emailing a note or voice memo to [email protected]. Start your message with “I’m (name) and it’s going to be okay.”

“It’s Going To Be OK” is brought to you by The Hartford. The Hartford is a leading insurance provider that connects people and technology for better employee benefits.  Learn more at www.thehartford.com/benefits.

The IGTBO team is Nora McInerny, Claire McInerny, Marcel Malekebu, Amanda Romani and Grace Barry.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcripts may not appear in their final version and are subject to change.


I’m Nora McInerny, and it’s going to be okay.

I pulled today’s episode from an interview I did with the psychologist Dr. Edith Eger, a Holocaust survivor who wrote two of my favorite books: The Gift and The Choice. That interview became an episode of “Terrible, Thanks for Asking,” and she shared so many beautiful things that I wanted to put a few of them into a place where you could save and get to them quicker and play them on repeat on days when you need reassurance from a woman who is truly just pure light.

Edith: You know, when I was 40, my supervisor told me to go get a doctorate, but then I said, that’s impossible, I would be 50. I’ll be 50. And he said, you’ll be 50 anyway. So don’t worry about the chronological age, please. It’s your attitude. It’s you. It’s the way you see yourself. And I keep getting younger and younger and younger and more alive. And I’m so grateful to God that not only survived, but able to guide others from victimization to empowerment from darkness to light.

Furthermore, I like walking. I like to walk. And one of my idioms is are you revolving or are you evolving? And that’s why I like butterflies because I like the idea of the metamorphosis. And then you shed the chrysalis. What am I holding on to? And my definition of love is the ability to let go. Not revenge.

Dr Eger: What is the process is, um… Is grief is about going through the stages of grief. I studied with Elizabeth Kubler-Ross to shock the denial and anger. Some people get stuck in the anger. See, when you, when you have anger, chances are you have a lot of other emotions underneath of anger and the biggest one is fear. So anger is not the primary emotion. And you may want to ask yourself, what am I afraid of? So I can put it on the blackboard, anger underneath fear and under there is loss. And the biggest fear of a child is the fear of abandonment. And I tell you, women who approach midlife, 40s, 50s. There is one thing they’re really afraid of. To being with themselves. And if you’re not happy alone, you won’t be happy with anybody else. If someone says I need you, run. Needs are things without which we cannot survive. I need to breathe after four minutes, I’m done. OK, that’s very important. The grieving feeling and healing, you cannot heal what you don’t feel. Crying is good. What comes out to your body doesn’t make you ill. What stays in there does. So share your secrets.

Dr Eger: Just remember, the more you suffered, the stronger you become. You’re a good survivor and you know, you carry good blood. So your ancestors never gave up. And that’s what we are. We carry good blood and we always find the light, no matter how dark it is.

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Dr. Edith Eger

Edith Eger is a psychologist, a Holocaust survivor, a specialist in the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder, and an author.

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